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Driver Faces Fine For Speed Camera Warnings


Article by: rob brady
Date: 25 Apr 2019

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A driver has been reported for warning other motorists of an upcoming speed camera van.

It turns out that one of the vehicles he waved at contained a police officer. He was reported for obstructing the police.

An officer for Devon and Cornwall Police tweeted: "Driving waving frantically at our unmarked vehicle to 'warn' us of the camera van on the A30 is not the smartest move. The excuse was that he does not like speeders but he does not want them being 'caught' either!"

Alerting others about mobile cameras is an offence punishable by a maximum penalty of one month's imprisonment alongside a possible fine of up to 1,000.

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Posted by arfurdent on Thu Apr 25, 2019 10:47 am Reply with quote

so golden rule is to never warn other motorists of a potential obstruction


 
Posted by sussamb on Thu Apr 25, 2019 11:47 am Reply with quote

Confused No idea how you infer that Rolling Eyes


Where there's a will ... there's a way.

 
Posted by Philip on Thu Apr 25, 2019 9:15 pm Reply with quote

News Team Wrote:
Alerting others about mobile cameras is an offence punishable by a maximum penalty of one month's imprisonment alongside a possible fine of up to 1,000.

Does that equally apply to those who produce an app (and associated database) which is specifically designed to alert drivers about mobile cameras? :-)


Philip

 
Posted by Lotus26r on Fri Apr 26, 2019 7:07 am Reply with quote

Isn't it part everybody's civil responsibility to encourage other road users to slow down if they think they may be driving too fast?


 
Posted by Surfer01 on Fri Apr 26, 2019 7:49 am Reply with quote

You are preventing an offence from being committed so how can you be punished for doing that? If you could prevent a murder/robbery/theft/assault is that punishable?


Home is where I park it!

 
Posted by sussamb on Fri Apr 26, 2019 8:10 am Reply with quote

No, you're preventing an offender being caught, just like if you harboured a murderer.


Where there's a will ... there's a way.

 
Posted by Surfer01 on Fri Apr 26, 2019 8:31 am Reply with quote

sussamb Wrote:
No, you're preventing an offender being caught, just like if you harboured a murderer.


How can they be an offender if they have not been caught and the crime has not yet happened?


Home is where I park it!

 
Posted by M8TJT on Fri Apr 26, 2019 9:19 am Reply with quote

If the crime had 'not yet happened', then they wouldn't have been caught.

Your hypothesis holds no water at all. A crime can happen without a culprit being caught. Not being caught does not indicate that you are not an offender?

How many times have you exceeded the speed limit (inadvertently, of course) without being caught. You have still committed the offence regardless, and thus you are 'an offender'.

With a speeding offence caught on camera, the crime is being committed at the time, not 'about to happen'.


 
Posted by RobBrady on Fri Apr 26, 2019 9:28 am Reply with quote

In the Highway Code, under rule 110, it states that drivers should "Only flash your headlights to let other road users know that you are there".


Robert Brady
Editor, Pocket GPS World
The Premier GPS / SatNav Resource for News, Reviews and Forums

 
Posted by Surfer01 on Fri Apr 26, 2019 9:29 am Reply with quote

M8TJT Wrote:
If the crime had 'not yet happened', then they wouldn't have been caught.

Your hypothesis holds no water at all. A crime can happen without a culprit being caught. Not being caught does not indicate that you are not an offender?

How many times have you exceeded the speed limit (inadvertently, of course) without being caught. You have still committed the offence regardless, and thus you are 'an offender'.

With a speeding offence caught on camera, the crime is being committed at the time, not 'about to happen'.


So if a Satnav warns you of a speed camera, then the Satnav owner should be prosecuted. The vehicle travelling in the opposite direction containing the police officer should have been travelling within the speed limit and the other driver may have been warning them about approaching a danger zone. The danger zone being the speed trap area as we have all seen motorist suddenly and unexpectedly brake when they see a speed camera. As the police officer was not committing an offence by speeding or about to commit an offence, the warning served no purpose. No crime was committed by either driver!


Home is where I park it!

 
Posted by RobBrady on Fri Apr 26, 2019 9:31 am Reply with quote

I find it an extremely grey area.

Some forces apparently say that posting the location of a mobile camera on social media is an offence while others advertise the positions of their cameras regularly through local newspapers.


Robert Brady
Editor, Pocket GPS World
The Premier GPS / SatNav Resource for News, Reviews and Forums

 
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