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PostPosted: Wed Jun 29, 2011 7:27 pm    Post subject: DfT Announce New Speed Camera Rules For UK Councils Reply with quote

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UK Road Safety Minister Mike Penning has announced that local authorities and the police are now required, for the first time, to publish full online information about speed cameras.

Statistics that show the total number of accidents and casualties at speed camera sites will now have to made public by local councils. The figures are required to include information relating to before and after the cameras were installed

Police forces are now also required to publish the number of speed camera prosecutions in their area, including information about whether offenders are fined, complete a speed awareness course or are taken to court.

Mike Penning said: "We want to improve accountability and make sure that the public are able to make informed judgements about the decisions made on their behalf. So if taxpayers' money is being spent on speed cameras then it is right that information about their effectiveness is available to the public.

“That is why we want full details of accidents and casualties at camera sites, along with the number of offences arising from each camera, to be easily accessible. This will help to show what impact cameras are having on road safety and also how the police are dealing with offenders.”

The Highways Agency has been tasked to publish individual camera casualty, collision and speed information for permanent fixed camera sites on its website or provide links to local authorities sites with the relevant information by 20th July.

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PostPosted: Sun Jul 03, 2011 4:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I find this a bit of a joke considering that the HA have installed a set of SPECs cameras on the A3 outside the yet to be opened Hindhead Tunnel.

So how do these fit in with this criteria?

The tunnel doesn't have any before accident rate, as obviously it's not open to traffic yet, so why are they there?

The only real reason for their very existence is that they are simply there for revenue raising.

Also here's a question.

What happens if a motorist enters the tunnel under one speed (70) & during the transit of the tunnel, the lower speed (40) is imposed, will they get a ticket because they travelled too quickly? Confused

Will they temporarily stop traffic so that the SPECs system will be correctly set, otherwise there could be a hell of a lot of vehicle owners getting tickets which is not their fault.
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 03, 2011 6:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Wazza_G wrote:
The only real reason for their very existence is that they are simply there for revenue raising.
I suspect the real reasoning is to stop people driving too fast throught the tunnel, just as they do during roadworks on major routes. This 'revenue raising' argument is wearing a bit thin, although I do agree with the theory on quite a lot of fixed cams.
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 03, 2011 6:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Wazza_G wrote:
I find this a bit of a joke considering that the HA have installed a set of SPECs cameras on the A3 outside the yet to be opened Hindhead Tunnel.

So how do these fit in with this criteria?


They don't need to. They were erected BEFORE the 20th July rule for providing the statistics. Wink
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 09, 2011 9:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

MaFt wrote:
Wazza_G wrote:
I find this a bit of a joke considering that the HA have installed a set of SPECs cameras on the A3 outside the yet to be opened Hindhead Tunnel.

So how do these fit in with this criteria?


They don't need to. They were erected BEFORE the 20th July rule for providing the statistics. Wink

If that's true, then there are NO statistics required, because right now, and for the next ten days, every camera in the country has been erected before 20th July.

Surely this topic is about providing data, not about criteria for new installations? In the case of Hindhead Tunnel (and any other new roads blessed with cameras and/or unusual speed limits installed before opening day), there can never be any statistics which fit this instruction.

It would be good if the same rule was applied to speed limit settings - there are far too many stupidly low speed limits all round the country, which seem to have been set by some fool in a back office who makes his own decision as to why he wants a non-standard speed limit on a road (simple example, all those silly 40mph lead-ins [and lead-outs!!] on completely empty country roads outside a village with a 30mph limit).
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 09, 2011 11:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

DennisN wrote:
(simple example, all those silly 40mph lead-ins [and lead-outs!!] on completely empty country roads outside a village with a 30mph limit).
Perhaps the same desk jockey should also put 50MPH lead ins to the 40MPH lead ins (and outs) Shocked to make us completely aware of the 30MPH limit in the villiage Confused (or something)
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