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pillboxman Lifetime Member
Joined: Oct 15, 2005 Posts: 123 Location: Somerset, England
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Posted: Tue Jan 10, 2006 5:44 pm Post subject: |
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jpkeates wrote: | How many forum members does it take to change a Lightbulb? |
Nice one, I liked it very much. Now, which one am I?
BTW, I for one am not prepared to submit to a camara database that is no longer free. I use POIEdit which is set to download everytime I connect to my PC. The idea of a month free for a submission is lunatic so I am off to a free database which I will be supplying with any new sights that I find. |
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fwor Occasional Visitor
Joined: Dec 01, 2005 Posts: 39
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Posted: Tue Jan 10, 2006 6:07 pm Post subject: |
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Zaki wrote: | metroace wrote: | jpkeates wrote: | How many forum members does it take to change a Lightbulb?
Old, but suddenly seemed relevant.. |
Loved it!
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fwor Occasional Visitor
Joined: Dec 01, 2005 Posts: 39
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Posted: Tue Jan 10, 2006 6:13 pm Post subject: |
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smstextaddict wrote: | With reference to a post somewhere above in page three about getting a laser/radar detector, ill let you decide after telling you this. It takes a third of a second for a laser to lock on and get a speed reading of your vehicle and usually by the time the detector has bleeped the copper has all the evidence he needs. There are times you could pick up scatter from cars being targeted ahead, but really all these laser detectors tell you is that you have a ticket coming in the post. |
It was me that posted the bit about laser/radar detectors, and I must admit I agree with you.
I borrowed one for a while (a Snooper S4 neo) and was not impressed. The bit about scatter from other cars ahead is probably wishful thinking on the part of the makers, rather than reliable real life experience. |
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unwanted Occasional Visitor
Joined: Jan 31, 2006 Posts: 34
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Posted: Tue Jan 31, 2006 2:07 am Post subject: |
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pillboxman wrote: |
BTW, I for one am not prepared to submit to a camara database that is no longer free. I use POIEdit which is set to download everytime I connect to my PC. The idea of a month free for a submission is lunatic so I am off to a free database which I will be supplying with any new sights that I find. |
as the database is/will be subscription based I for two see is no point in sending submissions... if it was still free I would have gladly contiributed my knowledge of the area I live for free... eg. there are 4 mobile locations in a 15 mile stretch that are incorrect, (theres been no one "camping" there for years)... and thats just one location I bother to mention from many... |
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Tim Buxton Pocket GPS Moderator
Joined: 14/09/2002 20:56:18 Posts: 5231 Location: Surrey, United Kingdom
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Posted: Tue Jan 31, 2006 7:08 am Post subject: |
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So, your one post on, or contribution to, the forum is to point out that you won't be contributing. _________________ Tim |
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peterweg Regular Visitor
Joined: Mar 06, 2005 Posts: 68
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Posted: Mon Feb 27, 2006 3:23 pm Post subject: |
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Can I point out that the camera database isn't owned by anyone. Its not copyrightable or protected by trademarks as its purely data. If pocketgps want to charge for download, thats ok.
However there isn't anything to stop it being being shared elsewhere. |
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Darren Frequent Visitor
Joined: 11/07/2002 14:36:40 Posts: 23848 Location: Hampshire, UK
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Posted: Mon Feb 27, 2006 3:48 pm Post subject: |
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peterweg wrote: | Can I point out that the camera database isn't owned by anyone. Its not copyrightable or protected by trademarks as its purely data. If pocketgps want to charge for download, that's ok.
However there isn't anything to stop it being being shared elsewhere. |
Actually that is wholly untrue and we have taken advice that confirms our position. Co-ordinates are not by themselves subject to copyright but the collective works that constitute our database is.
In much the same way as an individual post code is not subject to copyright whereas the collection of Post Codes that forms the Postcode database is.
Our database is a collective work and our copyright is based on the work that has been dedicated to creating it and maintaining it. _________________ Darren Griffin |
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peterweg Regular Visitor
Joined: Mar 06, 2005 Posts: 68
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Posted: Mon Feb 27, 2006 4:24 pm Post subject: |
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I think you are right, but if anyone converted into another format then they would own that database - correct? |
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Darren Frequent Visitor
Joined: 11/07/2002 14:36:40 Posts: 23848 Location: Hampshire, UK
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Posted: Mon Feb 27, 2006 6:47 pm Post subject: |
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peterweg wrote: | I think you are right, but if anyone converted into another format then they would own that database - correct? |
Uh no. Any database that contained a substantial proportion of our data whatever form it was converted into would still be subject to our Copyright and IP ownership. Do you really think Copyright could be flouted so easily? _________________ Darren Griffin |
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Davegthomas Lifetime Member
Joined: May 07, 2005 Posts: 115 Location: Guildford
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Posted: Mon Feb 27, 2006 9:06 pm Post subject: |
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On a slightly different tack - each time I download the database I have to do a considerable amount of editing to the files before I can use them.
This is not a problem when tha data is free BUT if I have to pay then it should come already edited.
Is this going to happen?
I don't recall having seen anyone asking if the data presentation is satisfactory. |
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Darren Frequent Visitor
Joined: 11/07/2002 14:36:40 Posts: 23848 Location: Hampshire, UK
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Posted: Mon Feb 27, 2006 9:08 pm Post subject: |
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Why do you have to edit them? What platform are you using them on? _________________ Darren Griffin |
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Davegthomas Lifetime Member
Joined: May 07, 2005 Posts: 115 Location: Guildford
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Posted: Mon Feb 27, 2006 9:24 pm Post subject: |
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I am using the Lidl MyGuide 6500XL and POIObserver.
The editing I have to do is to remove all your headings (Longitude, Latitude, Name) and pad any files with less than 5 entries. |
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Darren Frequent Visitor
Joined: 11/07/2002 14:36:40 Posts: 23848 Location: Hampshire, UK
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Posted: Mon Feb 27, 2006 9:43 pm Post subject: |
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I'm not familiar with that software and its not an issue I have seen reported before. We don't have any files with less then 5 entries so no padding would be required but what data format does your system accept?
Where there is sufficient demand we will always create a specific version. However given the variety of formats that some of the less popular systems use there will not always be enough demand to justify this. _________________ Darren Griffin |
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Davegthomas Lifetime Member
Joined: May 07, 2005 Posts: 115 Location: Guildford
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Posted: Mon Feb 27, 2006 10:28 pm Post subject: |
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Quote: | We don't have any files with less then 5 entries so no padding would be required |
Oh yes you do!
Look in speed zoned.
Quote: | What data format does your system accept? |
Straight ASCII with no headings.
And I see that we are posting from the futue again and this time it isn't me as my profile is set to GMT |
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Oldboy Pocket GPS Moderator
Joined: Dec 08, 2004 Posts: 10642 Location: Suffolk, UK
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Posted: Tue Feb 28, 2006 8:09 am Post subject: |
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Davegthomas wrote: | And I see that we are posting from the futue again and this time it isn't me as my profile is set to GMT |
You will have to set your Profile to GMT-1.
See http://www.pocketgpsworld.com/modules.php?name=Forums&file=viewtopic&p=195259 _________________ Richard
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