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Darren Frequent Visitor
Joined: 11/07/2002 14:36:40 Posts: 23848 Location: Hampshire, UK
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Posted: Thu Feb 25, 2010 12:36 pm Post subject: Your help is needed - Manufacturer seeks your assistance |
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On occasion we get approached by manufacturers seeking the assistance of our ever growing readership and this is one such occasion.
This time it is for a very interesting potential product designed for motorist safety. We've been asked not to reveal any details of the actual gadget or indeed identify the manufacturer at this stage but they would welcome your assistance with a very quick user survey.
The survey is anonymous and so contains no personally identifying information. And to allay any suspicions we're happy to assure you that this is a legitimate company seeking some statistics on driver habits in connection with a new product.
If you can spare 5mins of your time then the survey can be found here.
_________________ Darren Griffin |
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marc_holmes Lifetime Member
Joined: Jan 02, 2007 Posts: 49
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Posted: Thu Feb 25, 2010 2:33 pm Post subject: |
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My answer to 6. was yes, but that was before it was illegal. The question doesn't seek to differentiate if use of a handheld was before or after it was made illegal. Or is that irrelevant for the purposes of this survey? |
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Survey_Poster Occasional Visitor
Joined: Feb 25, 2010 Posts: 3
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Posted: Thu Feb 25, 2010 3:10 pm Post subject: |
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Excellent point. We have adjusted the wording of the question in an attempt to clarify, we hope without detracting from the original question. |
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BigPerk Frequent Visitor
Joined: Sep 06, 2006 Posts: 1618 Location: East Hertfordshire
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Posted: Thu Feb 25, 2010 3:20 pm Post subject: |
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it's only illegal 'on the move' roughly speaking though. Does the new question cover this ok? (Can't see the questionnaire any more since I filled it in originally.) _________________ David
(Navigon 70 Live, Nuvi 360) |
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Survey_Poster Occasional Visitor
Joined: Feb 25, 2010 Posts: 3
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Posted: Thu Feb 25, 2010 3:50 pm Post subject: |
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To clarify, the 'The Road Vehicles (Construction and Use) (Amendment) (No. 4) Regulations 2003' states 'The Definition of Driving' as:
'A person is “driving” even if the vehicle is stationary but the engine is running. The offence applies to all motor vehicles, including motorcycles, but will not apply to pedal cycles.'
The question was changed to read:
'6. Regardless of the answer to the above, have you ever used your phone hand-held for any purpose whilst driving in the last 3 years?'
This was done to clarify the question as to if the driver has used a hand-held phone whilst driving knowing that it was illegal.
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From 1st December 2003 the penalties were initially a fixed penalty of £30 or a fine of up to £1,000 if the offender goes to court (£2,500 for drivers of goods vehicles or passenger carrying vehicles with 9 or more passenger seats).
From 27th Februrary 2007, the penalty for using a hand-held mobile phone whilst driving increased to £60 and three penalty points added to the drivers' licence.
So whilst is has been technically illegal since 2003 we thought it unfair given the comment to ask people to recall back that far when we are specifically interested in recent events.
Again, hope this clarifies. |
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mostdom Pocket GPS Moderator
Joined: Jul 10, 2006 Posts: 1964 Location: Surrey, UK.
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Posted: Thu Feb 25, 2010 5:01 pm Post subject: |
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I always find these things interesting. Dispite thinking I drive as carefully as I can, filling out these questionares make me feel gulty as hell!
I have a hands free and cradle but still do stuff on it while driving!
Now I've got that off my chest I feel better! _________________ Dom
HERE LIES PND May it rest in peace.
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BigPerk Frequent Visitor
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Posted: Thu Feb 25, 2010 5:06 pm Post subject: |
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If Survey_Poster turns up on my doorstep as PC999, I shall deny everything of course _________________ David
(Navigon 70 Live, Nuvi 360) |
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mostdom Pocket GPS Moderator
Joined: Jul 10, 2006 Posts: 1964 Location: Surrey, UK.
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Posted: Thu Feb 25, 2010 5:10 pm Post subject: |
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BigPerk wrote: | If Survey_Poster turns up on my doorstep as PC999, I shall deny everything of course |
Ahem! Now when I say I do stuff on my phone! ...I do mean hypothetically! I am joking of course! _________________ Dom
HERE LIES PND May it rest in peace.
Navigon 7310/iPhone Navigon&Copilot |
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mikealder Pocket GPS Moderator
Joined: Jan 14, 2005 Posts: 19638 Location: Blackpool , Lancs
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Posted: Thu Feb 25, 2010 6:07 pm Post subject: |
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I guess its a good jog the iPhone app "Ping" isn't listed as one of the things to use while driving so I can answer that I only use the phone for calls via handsfree.......
Only joking of course - Mike |
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gem Regular Visitor
Joined: Feb 06, 2004 Posts: 90 Location: Scotland
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Posted: Thu Feb 25, 2010 8:39 pm Post subject: |
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And the question I posted some weeks ago about using your phone's sat nav (without cradle) and being illegal applies.
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Darren Frequent Visitor
Joined: 11/07/2002 14:36:40 Posts: 23848 Location: Hampshire, UK
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Posted: Thu Feb 25, 2010 8:52 pm Post subject: |
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gem wrote: | And the question I posted some weeks ago about using your phone's sat nav (without cradle) and being illegal applies. |
I'm sure this has been raised and disproved before but I cannot lay my hands on the reference.
Of course it still needs to be in a cradle but it is an interesting point. _________________ Darren Griffin |
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Fellwalker Lifetime Member
Joined: Apr 18, 2006 Posts: 207 Location: Up North
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Posted: Fri Feb 26, 2010 12:05 pm Post subject: |
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I must admit to being confused as to what the possible new product might be. The questions did not seem to lead anywhere, and fundamentally just reinforced that using your phone hands on in the car is wrong. I've already got a fully fitted car kit, so don't even need to take the phone out of my pocket. I can even receive texts on the car, but not send them. |
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Darren Frequent Visitor
Joined: 11/07/2002 14:36:40 Posts: 23848 Location: Hampshire, UK
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Posted: Fri Feb 26, 2010 12:43 pm Post subject: |
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On an unrelated note a recent test demonstrated that even using a car-kit, drivers were more distracted AND their driving and reactions were worse affected than being moderately over the drink drive limit.
Personally I don't use a car-kit and don't take or make calls in-car. _________________ Darren Griffin |
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MaFt Pocket GPS Staff
Joined: Aug 31, 2005 Posts: 15258 Location: Bradford, West Yorkshire
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Posted: Fri Feb 26, 2010 1:51 pm Post subject: |
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Darren wrote: | On an unrelated note a recent test demonstrated that even using a car-kit, drivers were more distracted AND their driving and reactions were worse affected than being moderately over the drink drive limit.
Personally I don't use a car-kit and don't take or make calls in-car. |
I saw MythBusters doing this on some dodgy Freeview channel- quite interesting actually!
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Darren Frequent Visitor
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Posted: Fri Feb 26, 2010 1:56 pm Post subject: |
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When I used to manage customer networks I all to frequently had to take calls in car and I know that having to debug network issues and offer support from in-car on a hands-free is highly distracting.
So much so that I took a stance and refused to take calls in car. _________________ Darren Griffin |
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