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galaxy111 Occasional Visitor
Joined: Mar 01, 2006 Posts: 42 Location: Cheshire, UK
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evilscoop Occasional Visitor
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Posted: Wed Apr 05, 2006 3:27 pm Post subject: |
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its a real place, its been on all the radio stations this morning in the yorkshire area |
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chris_w Pocket GPS Verifier
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Scuby Occasional Visitor
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Posted: Wed Apr 05, 2006 8:21 pm Post subject: |
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Any idea if this is specific to TeleAtlas or NavTeq?
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Scuby Occasional Visitor
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Posted: Wed Apr 05, 2006 8:25 pm Post subject: |
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Assuming it could be a problem with the unit or the map, I should have also asked if anyone knows which line of SatNav products are sending people there.
Lew |
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mikealder Pocket GPS Moderator
Joined: Jan 14, 2005 Posts: 19638 Location: Blackpool , Lancs
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Posted: Wed Apr 05, 2006 8:30 pm Post subject: |
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Scuby wrote: | Any idea if this is specific to TeleAtlas or NavTeq?
Lew | The common denominator has to be the driver not the map OR the nav package, if you are not paying attention to the road signs and area then as Chris said earlier "Following your GPS blindly is a bad idea" and will get you in trouble with the Police or worse still a trip off road, use it wisely and you will be OK, had a good laugh at the article though - what some people will do - - Mike |
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Aitch2 Regular Visitor
Joined: Jan 22, 2006 Posts: 226 Location: South Coast, UK
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Posted: Wed Apr 05, 2006 8:39 pm Post subject: |
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I heard the story on Radio4.
I find it amusing that some people would rather trust their GPS than their own eyes and proceed to argue the case with the locals! "But my GPS says this is a main road!"
Munters!
Aitch _________________ Find Somewhere Else 090407: www.marillion.com |
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chris_w Pocket GPS Verifier
Joined: Nov 09, 2004 Posts: 628 Location: West Yorkshire
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Posted: Wed Apr 05, 2006 11:21 pm Post subject: |
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Scuby wrote: | Assuming it could be a problem with the unit or the map, I should have also asked if anyone knows which line of SatNav products are sending people there.
Lew |
The one used on the BBC was a TT ..........
the road has a gate on !!!! and it's a dirt track with a steep gradient ....
Draw your own conclusions on what type of person would drive up a road like that _________________ Thanks,
Chris |
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galaxy111 Occasional Visitor
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Posted: Thu Apr 06, 2006 9:39 am Post subject: Sat-Navies |
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Obviously there is a minority of Sat-Nav users (Sat-Navies?) that assume that the GPS has a more powerful brain than their own. And in some cases, this may well be true.
Does this mean that the tranquil hidden valleys of the Yorkshire Dales are now long gone? |
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chris_w Pocket GPS Verifier
Joined: Nov 09, 2004 Posts: 628 Location: West Yorkshire
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Posted: Thu Apr 06, 2006 9:54 am Post subject: Re: Sat-Navies |
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galaxy111 wrote: |
Does this mean that the tranquil hidden valleys of the Yorkshire Dales are now long gone?
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Hope not _________________ Thanks,
Chris |
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Scuby Occasional Visitor
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Posted: Thu Apr 06, 2006 4:16 pm Post subject: |
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chris_w wrote: | Scuby wrote: | Assuming it could be a problem with the unit or the map, I should have also asked if anyone knows which line of SatNav products are sending people there.
Lew |
The one used on the BBC was a TT ..........
the road has a gate on !!!! and it's a dirt track with a steep gradient ....
Draw your own conclusions on what type of person would drive up a road like that | The first time I used my TTG 700 it told me to turn into a farm with a locked gate. I kept on going and it recalculated. You need some common sense. |
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NMatthew Lifetime Member
Joined: Jan 26, 2004 Posts: 113 Location: Norfolk
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Posted: Fri Apr 07, 2006 8:24 am Post subject: |
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While I agree that anyone dozy enough to go through a farm gate onto an unmade track deserves everything they get, I can kind-of sympathise.
I have experienced a similar thing in Scotland. I have used my TomTom for several years with little or no real problem, to such an extent that I now no longer have a paper map in the car. I will use the one in TomTom and review the route it has chosen before setting off. However, this time in Scotland a raod shown on TomTom's map was no such thing, and required a 5 mile detour to go around. This is, of course, annoying, but hardly the end of the world. At least I ewasn't trying to get my wife to hospital to give birth or anything.
There are two points here I think.
Firstly, TeleAtlas say that they survey the roads. Oh yeah? Does anyone believe they took a survey vehicle to Crackpot? Clearly the data is from elsewhere (OS maybe) and they have misinterpreted some right of way as a a road. Map makers and Sat Nav vendors should be careful in making such claims.
Secondly, when we upgraded from TomTom 3 to TomTom 5 we lost the ability to mark sections of the map to avoid. I used to find this quite useful to mark up several roads that I use from time to time, including the change in one way systems in Nuneaton and Kettering. It would be nice to be able to kill this errant road in case I come across it in the summer as we are holidaying not far from there.
Please SatNav vendors, give us back the ability to mark bad roads!
Just my 2p.
Neil _________________ Audi TT Coupe Quattro
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MikeB Frequent Visitor
Joined: 20/08/2002 11:51:57 Posts: 3859 Location: Essex, UK
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Posted: Fri Apr 07, 2006 9:34 am Post subject: |
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NMatthew wrote: |
Firstly, TeleAtlas say that they survey the roads. Oh yeah? Does anyone believe they took a survey vehicle to Crackpot? Clearly the data is from elsewhere (OS maybe) and they have misinterpreted some right of way as a a road. Map makers and Sat Nav vendors should be careful in making such claims.
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Actually Teleatlas don't say they survey all the roads. They do get their data from a number of sources including the OS. When we visited the Teleatlas offices in Belgium last year they gave us a full explanation of how the maps were created check our article at http://www.pocketgpsworld.com/teleatlas-visit-aug05.php for more details. _________________ Mike Barrett |
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jonajuna Occasional Visitor
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Posted: Fri Apr 07, 2006 9:00 pm Post subject: |
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intrigued by this, i have had a looksee not for real, but by the power of my copilot and the web.
first off, CP6 doesnt even list crackpot as a place, so no problems for us users
secondly, i cant see what all the fuss is about, the map on multimap looks fine, ive driven on far worse, must be american tourists and continental lorry drivers that are having the problems, us brits are used to dodgy winding little roads, if people struggle with a road like that, i hpe to god they never travel in the western highlands or god forbid out on the western isles!!!!
multimap, even has it shown as a nice usable yellow road
http://multimap.com/map/browse.cgi?client=public&X=398000.237470665&Y=496000.441521528&width=700&height=400&gride=&gridn=&srec=0&coordsys=gb&db=freegaz&addr1=&addr2=&addr3=&pc=&advanced=&local=&localinfosel=&kw=&inmap=&table=&ovtype=&keepicon=&zm=0&scale=25000&left.x=5&left.y=211 |
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chris_w Pocket GPS Verifier
Joined: Nov 09, 2004 Posts: 628 Location: West Yorkshire
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Posted: Fri Apr 07, 2006 9:11 pm Post subject: |
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jonajuna wrote: | intrigued by this, i have had a looksee not for real, but by the power of my copilot and the web.
first off, CP6 doesnt even list crackpot as a place, so no problems for us users
secondly, i cant see what all the fuss is about, the map on multimap looks fine, ive driven on far worse, must be american tourists and continental lorry drivers that are having the problems, us brits are used to dodgy winding little roads, if people struggle with a road like that, i hpe to god they never travel in the western highlands or god forbid out on the western isles!!!!
multimap, even has it shown as a nice usable yellow road
http://multimap.com/map/browse.cgi?client=public&X=398000.237470665&Y=496000.441521528&width=700&height=400&gride=&gridn=&srec=0&coordsys=gb&db=freegaz&addr1=&addr2=&addr3=&pc=&advanced=&local=&localinfosel=&kw=&inmap=&table=&ovtype=&keepicon=&zm=0&scale=25000&left.x=5&left.y=211 |
They showed this road on the BBC...............
You can't tell from a map just how bad it is.
1. it's a gravel track with a very steep gradient in places.
2. there is a sheer drop on one side.
3. It's very narrow.
If you don't have a proper 4x4 and know how to use it you won't get up _________________ Thanks,
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