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New Mobile Phone Penalties Affect SatNav Use Too
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 07, 2017 12:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

No. It means you must stop, apply the handbrake, switch off the engine, get out and stand in the middle of the live lane, where you may use your hand held phone to your heart's content - even check your emails and the stock market, anything at all.
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 07, 2017 2:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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PostPosted: Tue Mar 07, 2017 10:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

sussamb wrote:
Note sat navs are excluded as they do not transmit data.

This is where the legislation doesn't keep up with technology, because nowadays, even standalone sat-navs transmit data. Many provide real-time traffic information via 3G (either directly of via WiFi tethering to your phone), which means transmitting as well as receiving data.
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 07, 2017 10:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

You're taking it out of context, you need to read the whole legislation, not just one part of it. In any case receiving traffic data is what they do, very few satnavs transmit data as defined in the legislation.

Put simply, the law does not apply to satnavs.
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 08, 2017 12:48 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

sussamb wrote:
You're taking it out of context, you need to read the whole legislation,
And this tread which has mentioned exactly that before and it has equally been dismissed before.
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 09, 2017 4:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Just to add a new twist to this topic:
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On Twitter, customer Jay Chase asked Greater Manchester Police (GMP) Traffic if he could use Apple Pay while at a drive-thru.

GMP Traffic replied: "If your engine is off and your handbrake applied and you're parked yes. If your engine is on NO."

Read more at http://www.leicestermercury.co.uk/driving-law-changes-can-you-still-use-your-mobile-phone-to-pay-at-drive-through-restaurants/story-30191783-detail/story.html#kzjluHFssiTI1Dph.99

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PostPosted: Thu Mar 09, 2017 4:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Clearly no, he's holding a device that falls under the legislation Wink

However he may be able to if the drive thru isn't deemed to be on the public highway, private land is exempt.
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 09, 2017 4:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I suspect that the chances of 'getting caught' under those circumstances are pretty slim.
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 09, 2017 4:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Agreed. Unless there was a police car getting a takeaway at the same time Laughing
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 09, 2017 5:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

sussamb wrote:
Clearly no, he's holding a device that falls under the legislation Wink

However he may be able to if the drive thru isn't deemed to be on the public highway, private land is exempt.


But it will be as the public has unrestricted access.
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 09, 2017 5:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Why are posts showing Friday March 10 (All times are GMT + 10)

My PC shows correct date and time.
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 09, 2017 6:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Cos your settings on this forum are wrong, mine show correct time/date ... go to your profile and change them.
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 09, 2017 9:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's nice to have confirmed by the many posts on this topic that my old garmin on its easily reached suction mount is ok to use , and using the cars built in hands free (via bluetooth) to my paired phone in my coat pocket on the back seat of the car is ok, but, speaking somewhat frivolously here, what if an app came out to change the operation of a smart phone in to a hand held press to talk device? that is, you pressed and held the on screen? button to speak, reception being cut off until the buitton was released, when it reverted to a receive only state. Would it then be exempt from the legislation? or, as I suspect, would it only be exempt if it was constructed to be a two way only device with no other function? Discuss?
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