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PostPosted: Thu Mar 24, 2011 8:54 am    Post subject: Automatic database download? Reply with quote

Hi

Is there a a way to have the latest version of the database downloaded (network permitting) automatically on startup, if required?

If not, please consider this a feature request Smile

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PostPosted: Thu Mar 24, 2011 9:09 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

it's something we're considering but need to work out the best way to do it. obviously we don't want to offend anyone by forcing the automagic download and eating into people's data or even roaming data!

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PostPosted: Thu Mar 24, 2011 9:11 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Fair enough, obviously it should be optional, I suppose the question is whether it's on or off by default.

If people don't want roaming data usage they'll have it switched off in the iPhone settings - if not it won't just be CamerAlert that's costing them money!

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PostPosted: Thu Mar 24, 2011 12:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I would not want an option to automatically download the database using GPRS. I very rarely use GPRS to download the database.

I'd like an option to automatically download the database using WiFi. However you have to decide when it's to be downloaded, using one or more of the following scenarios:

1. Only when a new version of the camera database is released.
2. Every time that the database is updated (between versions).
3. Specific times in the day, so that you have an up-to-date DB for going to work and again for going home.
4. Every x minutes or every y hours.

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PostPosted: Thu Mar 24, 2011 1:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

i would assume that the automated download would only be when the database number is increased - i.e. on the wednesday main release. an option to do it every few hours etc could have issues with server overload.

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PostPosted: Thu Mar 24, 2011 10:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think the current manual download system is best.

If you've set your device to download automatically and you're happily driving along, what if the database download goes awry? You could be in a position where CamerAlert doesn't warn you of cameras or you may be forced to pull over and sort it out.

What if you lose the GPRS signal mid-download?

Unless you have CamerAlert running whilst you're not driving, the only time it will be able to download automatically is whilst you are driving.
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 24, 2011 10:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

And is it really that onerous to download? You get alerted so you're unlikely to miss the fact that an update is available. And all it takes is a couple of taps of the screen once per week.

Do we really need to automate that?
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 25, 2011 12:14 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

It would be a useful addition to an already great app, save a few taps (like the "Also Run" feature in the latest version, which I really like), and ensure that more people are using the latest database version.

Maybe only having it check (say) once per day would be sensible, to manage the load on your servers.

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PostPosted: Fri Mar 25, 2011 12:23 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Darren wrote:
Do we really need to automate that?


So I start the app and every week this woman starts blabbering on about there being a new database. So I tap settings, manage cameras (wait 10 seconds while it checks), Download database (wait a minute or two while it downloads), tap done.

Automate that? Yes please. Laughing Or is there a short cut to doing this that I missed? Embarassed

I just want to start the app, it checks for a new database and quietly downloads it. Or failing that, what about you display a popup with "New database available, update Now? Yes / No"

As for the amount of data to be downloaded while roaming, why not rework your client/server code to just send the deltas or implement something like rsync? A bit more server side processing but a lot of mobile bandwidth saved...

Just a thought... Smile
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 25, 2011 12:46 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Skippy wrote:
So I start the app and every week this woman starts blabbering on about there being a new database.


You can change it to a bloke Wink
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 25, 2011 6:48 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Automating that part was one of my suggestions too, as was having an icon to accompany this new database alert.

In fact, I think I went as far as saying that this icon could serve that very purpose - ie straight from map screen to database download with one tap
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 25, 2011 11:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

MaFt wrote:
Skippy wrote:
So I start the app and every week this woman starts blabbering on about there being a new database.


You can change it to a bloke Wink


Some of your perfectly formed and exquisitely constructed humour, I presume. Laughing
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 25, 2011 11:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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PostPosted: Sat Mar 26, 2011 10:50 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

GPS_fan wrote:
Automating that part was one of my suggestions too, as was having an icon to accompany this new database alert.

In fact, I think I went as far as saying that this icon could serve that very purpose - ie straight from map screen to database download with one tap

Here is that very post from last December.

This also reiterates what I was asking in another area of the forum regarding some kind of feedback mechanism for enhancement suggestions which users have made.
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 27, 2011 11:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

We do have a list where we collect all the user suggestions, and we periodically discuss these in the team. Currently we're not ready to make that list public, but this may change in the future.
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