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PostPosted: Tue Nov 06, 2007 9:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Darren wrote:
Quite. This isn't a virus as such, it's simply a method that takes advantage of a gullible user. A good reason why users who aren't capable of making an educated decision in such circumstances shouldn't have Admin access.


Yes, I know - but it's because Macs have been relatively immune to such attacks until now, so I thought it might be an idea to warn anybody who might need a heads up...
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 06, 2007 9:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Darren wrote:
My particular path was
  1. Sinclair ZX80 Home-built and which didn't work and had to be sent back to be built properly!
  2. Sinclair ZX81, ah the heady days of the 16k RamPack!
  3. Sinclair Spectrum, upgraded to 48k, damn that tape drive!
  4. Amiga 500
  5. Amiga 2000, upgraded with twin 3.5's and a 20Mb HDD which cost a small fortune!
  6. Many PC's, Win2.0, 3.0, 3.11, 95, 98, 98SE, ME, NT, 2000, XP & Vista
  7. Mac, OS X


It's scary to think that my BBC is now in a museum - literally, my parents donated it to their local museum a while ago and it's been there ever since.

Perhaps even more scary is the fact that you can get USB sticks and the like with more storage capacity than hard drives had in the days of my first PC Confused
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 07, 2007 8:25 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Lost_Property wrote:
I have considered trying Linux as a dual boot, to see how good it is, but as I said earlier, the software I use Nero 7, MGI PhotoSuite4, Corel Paint Shop Pro Photo X2, and MS Moviemaker & Media player, it could prove costly to change.

OS X Can burn CD's and DVD's natively and iMovie is very much more comprehensive then MS Moviemaker.
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 07, 2007 9:07 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

GPS_fan wrote:
Perhaps even more scary is the fact that you can get USB sticks and the like with more storage capacity than hard drives had in the days of my first PC Confused


I managed to find a spectrum emulator that will load an old program in 1 sec. Gone are the days of 5 minuites of fuzzy screens. And if per chance you still had an old specy tape you can load up the tape into this emulator and save it there for instant use later on.

I also had the last 128bit Spectrum+. OOH, what a machine that was. It would store a whole game on it so there would be no re-loading time.

I always think the likes of Mac users as a bit funny as they will always rant and rave about how wonderful life is with their bigmac, yet there is still a lot of software/games that won't work with a mac. I will admit that if I were into editing music or movies my first choice would be a mac but for all round everything else you simply need a pc. That fact won't change untill Apple has equal share of the market.
My brother uses Suze O/S on his pc instead of windoze, and will swear by it, but as usual needs an emulator to run win-appz, and also has windows setup on another partition. All that effort for what???

I also have some spare 16oz reset tools available for pc users.
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 07, 2007 9:29 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm not sure why Mac users who have never used PC's are so evangelistic. PC users who have never used Mac's aren't.

However I can fully understand why converts to Mac are so enthusiastic! I don't use computers to play games, I have an XBox and Wii for that and although I was initially concerned about software availability, I haven't had an issue finding good mac alternatives.

When I upgraded to a MacBook Pro, all that was needed to mirror my install on the MacBook was a firewire cable and 40mins. The Mac asks if you are replacing another Mac and then copies all your apps, mail, favourite web-sites etc including all stored passwords.

Now on a PC that would be an absolute nightmare!
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 07, 2007 10:32 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Darren wrote:
When I upgraded to a MacBook Pro, all that was needed to mirror my install on the MacBook was a firewire cable and 40mins.


Another tip, for people who might not already be aware...

...during the installation process, when you'rve selected the destination drive for the install, click "Customize" on the bottom left and deselect all the fonts and language translations - this will speed up the installation and save several GB of hard drive space being taken up by things you don't need
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 07, 2007 10:32 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

...and for backing up, Time Machine makes something that can be a chore so easy that you WANT to do it.

You can even restore from a Time Machine backup onto a blank hard drive - how many other backup utilities allow you to do that?

a full back up the first time you use it

incremental backups every hour

if you turn your computer off mid-back, it just picks up where it left off the next time

As a test, I backed up a fresh install and then restored it back onto the hard drive - just under 40GB took about 10 minutes, which is quicker than installing from the DVD


I was impressed just reading about this, but now that I've used it I'm majorly impressed - "It does what it says on the tin"
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 07, 2007 10:39 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

GPS_fan wrote:
It's scary to think that my BBC is now in a museum - literally, my parents donated it to their local museum a while ago and it's been there ever since.

Forgot about that, got a BBC B and CUB Monitor in the loft!
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 07, 2007 10:45 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Darren wrote:
I'm not sure why Mac users who have never used PC's are so evangelistic. PC users who have never used Mac's aren't.


It used to be that Macs were much easier to use than PCs and much less complex, but now that Macs are Unix based that isn't really so anymore.

I think what it really comes down to is that a PC is a tool to get your job done whereas a Mac is COOL and it just happens to get the job done quite well too!

Likewise with the iPod. They are just an MP3 player at the end of the day and there are better, bigger, cheaper alternatives out the but everyone wants an iPod.
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 07, 2007 10:55 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Skippy wrote:
It used to be that Macs were much easier to use than PCs and much less complex, but now that Macs are Unix based that isn't really so anymore.

I think what it really comes down to is that a PC is a tool to get your job done whereas a Mac is COOL and it just happens to get the job done quite well too!


I'm not sure that I agree entirely with this because switching from Windows to Mac OS is not much different to switching from Win 98 to XP or XP to Vista etc - there are a few differences, but once you get to know you're way around.

Unix-based Mac OS is also inherently more secure than Windows.

I can see where this thread is heading and it was only supposed to be an advisory note to Mac users
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 07, 2007 10:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'd argue that Mac's move to Unix has not made them more complex as far as the user experience is concerned. It does allow you the option to get down and dirty via the terminal if you choose but for the average user it is just as simple and easy to use as ever.
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 07, 2007 10:59 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Oops, we appear to have replied along the same lines. It's in the OT area so not an issue, quite an interesting discussion actually!

Now if only the ruddy Postie would turn up with my Leonard discs I could get it installed Twisted Evil
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 07, 2007 11:03 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Darren,

It's obviously a case great minds Laughing

I can assure you that it's worth the wait for Time Machine alone!!

Most of the other features will depend very much upon how you use your computer as to whether you really notice them
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 07, 2007 11:06 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

My main wants are Spaces (I work on a laptop so screen real estate is always an issue) but I will be getting a 24" iMac for Chrimbo I hope! Time Machine comes a close second and then I'm also hoping that Finder has been improved. Not sure about the cover-flow bit but Finder itself does need a revamp?
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 07, 2007 11:19 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I tend to only be using 1 or 2 applications at a time and just flick between them using the dock.

QuickLook also sounds quite good, but I haven't really used it yet.
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