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GJF Frequent Visitor
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Posted: Thu Aug 23, 2007 3:44 pm Post subject: Survey - women equal to men with the ability to read a map. |
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Yes, sorry folks, yet another survey.
This NEWS REPORT based on a survey states, that not only are women equal to men on map reading, but when tested on their map-reading skills, only one per cent of drivers would pass the Cub Scout Map Reader badge, which is aimed at six to 17 year olds.
Are Sat Nav's making us lazy?
Men always used to be superior at map reading, what has happened? _________________ TomTom Go 60
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mikealder Pocket GPS Moderator
Joined: Jan 14, 2005 Posts: 19638 Location: Blackpool , Lancs
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Posted: Thu Aug 23, 2007 5:43 pm Post subject: |
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If you cannot read a paper map and still employ a compass effectively you should not go out in the hills even if you have a GPS , they can let you down or break often at the worst time quite possibly as conditions are deteriorating.
Being able to use a map correctly is essential, my wife cannot use one or read it correctly, but both my 10 year old daughter and 7 year old son can, they prefer to use the GPS as it is much easier, but map reading skills are an essential part of fell walking.
As for road maps, I don't think a Scout badge would be applicable, this is for Topo style usage - Mike |
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Border_Collie Pocket GPS Verifier
Joined: Feb 01, 2006 Posts: 2543 Location: Rainham, Kent. England.
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Posted: Thu Aug 23, 2007 6:24 pm Post subject: |
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My wife is fine using a paper map if we are travelling S to N but N to S she has to hold the map upside down. So there's one woman who can't do it.
But I've had no problems with Jane (TT) or Phillippa (iGO) who don't moan so much when I go wrong. |
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mostdom Pocket GPS Moderator
Joined: Jul 10, 2006 Posts: 1964 Location: Surrey, UK.
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Posted: Thu Aug 23, 2007 8:47 pm Post subject: |
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Scientifically, 3 out of 5 women lack the spatial awearness geneology thant most men have, which is why women tend to rotate a map to get their barring where most men can do this in their head.
Whilst some women are very good at reading maps and many are ok, I just don't believe this report! _________________ Dom
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wigfield Regular Visitor
Joined: Jun 10, 2006 Posts: 228 Location: Devon
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Posted: Thu Aug 23, 2007 8:53 pm Post subject: |
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i dont care what anyone thinks of me but i cant read a map,but i can read signs and i can ask for directions |
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DennisN Tired Old Man
Joined: Feb 27, 2006 Posts: 14892 Location: Keynsham
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Posted: Thu Aug 23, 2007 9:03 pm Post subject: Re: Survey - women equal to men with the ability to read a m |
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GJF wrote: | Men always used to be superior at map reading, what has happened? | We've stopped pulling in at the roadside to ask a woman the way!!! _________________ Dennis
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Privateer Pocket GPS Moderator
Joined: 30/12/2002 17:36:20 Posts: 4912 Location: Oxfordshire, England, UK
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Posted: Thu Aug 23, 2007 9:41 pm Post subject: |
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I taught Bo Peep how to read a map and use a compass. She's excellent at reading and interpreting Ordnance Survey Landranger Maps (1:50,000).
Now she’s better at reading maps than I am!
Regards, _________________ Robert.
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Oldboy Pocket GPS Moderator
Joined: Dec 08, 2004 Posts: 10642 Location: Suffolk, UK
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Posted: Thu Aug 23, 2007 9:47 pm Post subject: |
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Privateer wrote: | Now she’s better at reading maps than I am! | What you're saying is that she's one in a million.
Was she looking over your shoulder at the time. _________________ Richard
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DennisN Tired Old Man
Joined: Feb 27, 2006 Posts: 14892 Location: Keynsham
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Posted: Thu Aug 23, 2007 11:38 pm Post subject: |
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Privateer wrote: | I taught Bo Peep how to read a map and use a compass. She's excellent at reading and interpreting Ordnance Survey Landranger Maps (1:50,000).
Now she’s better at reading maps than I am!
Regards, | I was taught at school! how to do 1" to the mile Ordnance Survey map stuff, with a prismatic compass. _________________ Dennis
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mostdom Pocket GPS Moderator
Joined: Jul 10, 2006 Posts: 1964 Location: Surrey, UK.
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Posted: Fri Aug 24, 2007 7:44 am Post subject: |
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DennisN wrote: | how to do 1" to the mile Ordnance Survey map stuff, with a prismatic compass. |
Whosmatic what? All we had in scouts was some string and a compass with a needle thing on it. We didn't have any new fangled gismos like that. _________________ Dom
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GPS_fan Pocket GPS Moderator
Joined: Jan 04, 2007 Posts: 2789 Location: Hampshire, UK
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Posted: Fri Aug 24, 2007 7:58 am Post subject: |
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If I'm planning a journey along a route I'm not familiar with, I'll always look at a map before turning on any GPS.
It may be a little over the top for some people, but:
1) it gives you a rough idea where you're going, so you know if your GPS goes AWOL
2) it helps you to plan breaks if you're planning a longer journey
3) it gives you a rough idea of what alternative routes may be available if there's traffic, town centres or whatever
4) it makes it easier to find the right page if you need to use a map along the route
5) you can see where all the pubs are marked on the map
Note: item 2 above helps reduce the risk of Dennis' "emergency breaking situation" _________________ Andy
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Skippy Pocket GPS Verifier
Joined: 24/06/2003 00:22:12 Posts: 2946 Location: Escaped to the Antipodies! 36.83°S 174.75°E
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Posted: Fri Aug 24, 2007 9:19 am Post subject: |
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Anyone can do anything if they apply themselves to it and practice a bit. The problem is that map reading is a fairly boring and thankless task (you just get abuse when you get it wrong) so people can't be bothered getting good at doing it.
Anyway, that's why we have Sat Nav, innit! _________________ Gone fishing! |
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GJF Frequent Visitor
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Posted: Fri Aug 24, 2007 10:24 am Post subject: |
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I still believe that the day's of having a Sat Nav and forgetting map reading isn't upon us yet.
If i am in London or any other City/town the Sat Nav can be relied on without maps, but longer journeys - i can't trust it.
My Sat Nav is OK if i am on a direct route via motorways or A roads, but within the country side still sends me on obscure routes with often more rather than less mileage.
This brings us back to map reading, I know that todays "user friendly" maps can be read by most people, feet to the inch rather than miles and lots of pretty colours makes them a lot easier to read, i believe this is the main reason that women now find it easier to read maps.
A great amount of map reading is whether to use that nice wide road or that one that goes past the coast, but how many can actually read the detail as supplied by Ordnance Survey when in the country, including heights above sea level and getting the correct compass bearing.
I am not trying to be sexist to women, but it has been proven that mens and womens brains work a different way, in the case of map reading, men have an advantage in orientation, but that doesn't make one better than the other and we are still both equal in our different ways.
When ever i give my wife an AA type map book she understands it easily, but give her the Ordnance Survey sheet map and she has no chance.
The report -
Quote: | Sat-nav doesn't seem to hold all the answers, though, because the average British motorist still drives 260 miles while lost each year. |
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999tommo Frequent Visitor
Joined: Feb 07, 2006 Posts: 616 Location: Midlothian
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Posted: Fri Aug 24, 2007 10:36 am Post subject: |
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Similar to Lost_Property, my wife is one of those upside down readers when travelling south, so she doesn't get her lefts and rights confused. The number of unnecessary domestics we have had on long journeys to the south of France have probably reached into three figures ! Since Tom Tom, she doesn't need to read a map, but I still buy an up to date one as a quick reference guide.
Perhaps instead of BC and AD as references to dates, we should now have BTT and ATT. Our travelling has certainly been more of a pleasure ATT. _________________ Tommo...
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GPS_fan Pocket GPS Moderator
Joined: Jan 04, 2007 Posts: 2789 Location: Hampshire, UK
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Posted: Fri Aug 24, 2007 11:50 am Post subject: |
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GJF wrote: | The report -
Quote: | Sat-nav doesn't seem to hold all the answers, though, because the average British motorist still drives 260 miles while lost each year. |
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I think it's important that even if you are lost, you should still try to drive as though you know where you're going until you find somewhere appropriate to pull over, look at a map, do a U-turn or whatever.
It's a real pain when the guy in front is doing about half the speed limit and then brakes at every junction, turning, farm gate etc - why don't they just pull over and wait for the queue of traffic behind to pass? This is one occasion when you have to be ready for a Dennis "emergency breaking situation" _________________ Andy
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