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PostPosted: Tue Dec 19, 2006 10:21 pm    Post subject: Spoken Camera Warnings Reply with quote

There are a couple of ways to enhance your device to issue spoken alerts when approaching speed cameras, for this to work you need to be using the PocketGPSWorld speed camera database, the alternate speed camera database offered by TomTom cannot currently be configured in this way.

Modified data.chk (the old method)

For quite some time the way to obtain spoken camera alerts has been made possible by swapping a file named data.chk with the new file containing the spoken alerts the version you download must match your software version for this to work.

Note this method is known to work on earlier TomTom devices including mobile, as this method is no longer supported for new versions of the TomTom software the ogg file method detailed below is the prefered method.

Full instructions and access to download the required data.chk file can be found HERE

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OGG File Methods - Works with version 5, 6 & 7 Software

Alternately you can use a newer (easier) method to obtain spoken camera alerts, this method employs audio files using the ogg file format.

UPDATE - there is a more concise set of instructions and an alternative method
(where the sounds are put in their own "sounds" folder) HERE. This page also has all the available voices to download.



Note this method is known to work with TomTom Go products and TomTom Navigator software versions 5,x 6,x and 7,x are supported, TomTom Mobile cannot use this method.

For additional information see HERE

For simplicity I have summarised how to achieve spoken alerts using the ogg files below:

Firstly you need a set of audio files in the ogg format, visit the ogg file download page on this site which contains the correct sound files in sets that are named to correspond with the various speed camera downloads that are available - see Here

These files should be downloaded to your PC, the ogg files from PocketGPSWorld are already named correctly.

Not all the speed camera categories are included within the voice pack download from the above site, pMobiles for example are missing in some downloads, you can simply use the mobile warning in place of the missing file, or make your own warning using an online Text To Speech Engine, or using the Audacity sound editor.

The suitably named ogg files should be placed into the map folder where your POI’s are located, do not put them in a sub-folder.

With the files in place start the TomTom Navigator and go to Change Preferences/ Manage POI/ Warn when near POI (this MUST be done even if your camera POI’s have been previously configured).

Select the first camera in the list, if asked whether you want to delete or remove the warning answer NO.

You should now be asked to select the warning distance



Followed by the Warn Only if POI on route –



please set-up these options as per your normal preference, remember everyone will use different settings dependent upon how they use the device.

Now repeat the above, setting up the POI warning for EACH camera category you have installed to the device.

At no point during the configuration should you be asked to choose a warning sound
(For users of version 7 software please see the note further down, which explains a known bug in the software).



If you are prompted to select a warning sound (as per the screen shot above) there is something wrong with your added files, or the camera POI you are configuring doesn't have a corresponding ogg file (pMobiles for example)

NOTE FOR TOMTOM 910 OR x20 USERS

In order to use the ogg files you must select "Sound Effect" when configuring your POI Warnings:



In addition users of Navcore 7 software should be aware of the following:

There is however a bug within the version 7 software.
When setting up POI Warnings using ogg files you are presented with this screen:



If you answer No to the question the device will lock up displaying this screen:



The only way around this is to press the reset switch. If you answer Yes with respect to the warning sound (even though you heard nothing) the device will have picked up the sound file, and it will use it by default for any associated warnings.


How To Test Your New Warnings

You could go out and drive past some local camera installations, there is a much easier way though that doesnt waste valuable fuel:

Switch on the TomTom device, or start the application as applicable.

Go to Advanced Planning (AtoB)

Set a departure point using Address/ Postcode FY43NN House number 95.

Set a destination point using Address/ Postcode PR41AX House number 33.

Now go to Show Route/ Route Demo, set the replay speed to around 100% and sit back watch/ listen, you should receive a Gatso 30 warning within about 45 seconds followed very closely by a Mobile 30 warning.

Additional Supporting information

Depending which Speed Camera database you are using will determine the number of audio files required please see the lists below.

For those using the Single file download:

pocketgps_uk_sc.ogg

For those using the consolidated by type file download:

pocketgps_uk_gatso.ogg
pocketgps_uk_mobile.ogg
pocketgps_uk_redlight.ogg
pocketgps_uk_specs.ogg
pocketgps_uk_temp.ogg

For those using the Speed Zoned file type download:

pocketgps_uk_gatso_20.ogg
pocketgps_uk_gatso_30.ogg
pocketgps_uk_gatso_40.ogg
pocketgps_uk_gatso_50.ogg
pocketgps_uk_gatso_60.ogg
pocketgps_uk_gatso_70.ogg
pocketgps_uk_gatso_tba.ogg
pocketgps_uk_gatso_var.ogg
pocketgps_uk_mobile_20.ogg
pocketgps_uk_mobile_30.ogg
pocketgps_uk_mobile_40.ogg
pocketgps_uk_mobile_50.ogg
pocketgps_uk_mobile_60.ogg
pocketgps_uk_mobile_70.ogg
pocketgps_uk_mobile_tba.ogg
pocketgps_uk_specs_20.ogg
pocketgps_uk_specs_30.ogg
pocketgps_uk_specs_40.ogg
pocketgps_uk_specs_50.ogg
pocketgps_uk_specs_60.ogg
pocketgps_uk_specs_70.ogg
pocketgps_uk_specs_tba.ogg
pocketgps_uk_redlight.ogg
pocketgps_uk_temp.ogg

When re-naming the files make sure that Windows Explorer tools/ Folder Options view tab is configured as shown below, otherwise it is quite easy for the resultant file to have two file extensions (then it doesn’t work):



If it still doesn't work - Most likely causes:

Incorrect name of the ogg file – remember it must exactly match the corresponding ov2 and bmp file. Pay particular attention to the use of the underscore within the file name.

Are the files incorrectly named using two file extensions? Quite often this is caused when the files are re-named without first turning off the option to “Hide file extensions for know file types” (as shown earlier on this page).

Have you placed the ogg files into the correct active map directory, with the current software and/ or map upgrade process taking place, it is not uncommon to find users have inadvertently placed the ogg files in the old map, to be left wondering why the device cannot see the files it needs. How many map folders are on your device, if its more than one check where you have placed the ogg files. Also ensure the actual Active map is the correct one, you might have a new map loaded but not selected within the TomTom Navigator application. Change Preferences/ Manage Maps/ Switch Map.

Do you have a modified data.chk file still loaded to the device? - if so replace this with the original unmodified file, if you don't still have the unmodified data.chk file simply re-install the TomTom application to the unit as this action will replace the modified file with the correct one.

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Finally for TomTom Go-910 owners you can use the Text To Speech engine to produce warnings without doing any of the above, please read the user guide located HERE

Click HERE to return to the FAQ page.

Edit MikeAlder (06/05/07) to add the Test Instructions and a couple of other alterations/ additions

Edit MikeAlder (07/11/07) to update with respect to Navcore 7 applicability/ problems and removal of certain out of date information


Edit Andy P - Update links.


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PostPosted: Wed Dec 20, 2006 1:39 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Good "How to..." Mike.
Suggest you delete my reply, then lock the topic quick. Wink
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 20, 2006 9:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Andy_P2002 wrote:
Good "How to..." Mike.
Suggest you delete my reply, then lock the topic quick. Wink
Yep, you'll get all sorts wandering in messing things up Exclamation Laughing
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 20, 2006 10:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Read the main page that details the sections and provides the LINK To here - and I Quote:
Quote:
Once fully set-up the text above will be replaced, it is the intention this thread will be locked, the others can remain open for Q&A.
So I guess its stays open for those "Wanderers" - Mike
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 21, 2006 11:05 pm    Post subject: Lost my voices Reply with quote

Hi Mike,
I successfully dowloaded and installed the new WE Maps, Copied all the ov2, bitmap and ogg files from the Great Britain map folder into the WE map folder but the safety camera voice warning doesn't work. The cameras show on the display but no sound warning of any kind. I guess I need to copy another file, but which?
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 21, 2006 11:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

First of all have you selected the new map on the device? go to Change Preferences/ Manage Maps/ Switch Map and make sure the correct map is selected, once this is done simply configure you camera warnings one at a time which can be found at Change Preferences/ Manage POI/ Warn When Near POI - you will need to select each camera category in turn. - Mike
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 21, 2006 11:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks Mike, I had selected the new maps but had not configured the camera warnings. Done that and it's all ok now.
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 03, 2007 2:31 pm    Post subject: Re: Spoken Camera Warnings Reply with quote

mikealder wrote:
There are a couple of ways to enhance your device to issue spoken alerts when approaching speed cameras, for this to work you need to be using the PocketGPSWorld speed camera database, the alternate speed camera database offered by TomTom cannot currently be configured in this way.

For quite some time the way to obtain spoken camera alerts has been made possible by swapping a file named data.chk the new file containing the alerts must match your software version for this to work.

Note this method is known to work on all TomTom devices including mobile.

Full instructions and access to download the required data.chk file can be found HERE

===============================================

Alternately you can use a newer (easier) method to obtain spoken camera alerts, this method employs audio files using the ogg file format.

Note this method is known to work with TomTom Go products and TomTom Navigator software versions 5,x and 6,x are supported, TomTom Mobile cannot use this method.

For additional information see HERE

For simplicity I have summarised how to achieve spoken alerts using the ogg files below:

Firstly you need a set of audio files in the ogg format, a good source for pre-made sound files is found at www.tomtomsatnav.info/realvoice.html

These files should be downloaded to your PC and each one requires re-naming to match the corresponding POI file.

Depending which Speed Camera database you are using will determine the number of audio files required please see the lists below.

For those using the Single file download:

pocketgps_uk_sc.ogg

For those using the consolodated by type file download:

pocketgps_uk_gatso.ogg
pocketgps_uk_mobile.ogg
pocketgps_uk_redlight.ogg
pocketgps_uk_specs.ogg
pocketgps_uk_temp.ogg

For those using the Speed Zoned file type download:

pocketgps_uk_gatso_20.ogg
pocketgps_uk_gatso_30.ogg
pocketgps_uk_gatso_40.ogg
pocketgps_uk_gatso_50.ogg
pocketgps_uk_gatso_60.ogg
pocketgps_uk_gatso_70.ogg
pocketgps_uk_gatso_tba.ogg
pocketgps_uk_gatso_var.ogg
pocketgps_uk_mobile_20.ogg
pocketgps_uk_mobile_30.ogg
pocketgps_uk_mobile_40.ogg
pocketgps_uk_mobile_50.ogg
pocketgps_uk_mobile_60.ogg
pocketgps_uk_mobile_70.ogg
pocketgps_uk_moblie_tba.ogg
pocketgps_uk_specs_20.ogg
pocketgps_uk_specs_30.ogg
pocketgps_uk_specs_40.ogg
pocketgps_uk_specs_50.ogg
pocketgps_uk_specs_60.ogg
pocketgps_uk_specs_70.ogg
pocketgps_uk_specs_tba.ogg
pocketgps_uk_redlight.ogg
pocketgps_uk_temp.ogg

When re-naming the files make sure that Windows Explorer tools/ Folder Options view tab is configured as shown below, otherwise it is quite easy for the resultant file to have two file extensions (then it doesn’t work):



Not all the speed camera categories are included within the voice pack download from the above site, Gatso 20 for example is missing, you can simply use the Gatso warning in place of the missing file, or make your own warning using an online Text To Speech Engine, or using the Audacity sound editor.

The suitably named ogg files should be placed into the map folder where your POI’s are located, do not put them in a sub-folder.

With the files in place start the TomTom Navigator and go to Change Preferences/ Manage POI/ Warn when near POI (this MUST be done even if your camera POI’s have been previously configured).

Select the first camera in the list, if asked whether you want to delete or remove the warning answer NO.

You should now be asked to select the warning distance, followed by the Warn Only if POI on route – please set-up these options as per your normal preference, remember everyone will use different settings dependent upon how they use the device.

Now repeat the above, setting up the POI warning for EACH camera category you have installed to the device.

At no point during the configuration should you be asked to choose a warning sound, if you are prompted to select a warning sound there is something wrong with your added files.

Most likely causes:

Incorrect name of the ogg file – remember it must exactly match the corresponding ov2 and bmp file. Pay particular attention to the use of the underscore within the file name.

Are the files incorrectly named using two file extensions? Quite often this is caused when the files are re-named without first turning off the option to “Hide file extensions for know file types” (as shown earlier on this page).

Have you placed the ogg files into the correct active map directory, with the current software and/ or map upgrade process taking place, it is not uncommon to find users have inadvertently placed the ogg files in the old map, to be left wondering why the device cannot see the files it needs. How many map folders are on your device, if its more than one check where you have placed the ogg files. Also ensure the actual Active map is the correct one, you might have a new map loaded but not selected within the TomTom Navigator application. Change Preferences/ Manage Maps/ Switch Map.

===============================================

Finally for TomTom Go-910 owners you can use the Text To Speech engine to produce warnings without doing any of the above, please read the user guide located HERE
Laughing thanks mikealder i will test this out and let you know how i get on this is the first time useing this forum happy new year to you
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 03, 2007 9:29 pm    Post subject: Re: Spoken Camera Warnings Reply with quote

dadiocrocket wrote:
mikealder wrote:

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Laughing thanks mikealder i will test this out and let you know how i get on this is the first time useing this forum happy new year to you


Welcome to the forums!

Just a suggestion, use the button rather than the button, unless you actually need to reference another post.
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 03, 2007 11:08 pm    Post subject: Re: Spoken Camera Warnings Reply with quote

sorry about this but i have been trying to put spoken voices on ut cant seem to do it any chance of you explaining it a bit better. sorry for been so thick. Embarassed
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 03, 2007 11:59 pm    Post subject: Re: Spoken Camera Warnings Reply with quote

thehammer wrote:
sorry about this but i have been trying to put spoken voices on ut cant seem to do it any chance of you explaining it a bit better. sorry for been so thick. Embarassed
What part are you having trouble with?
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 04, 2007 6:41 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dan_Gleebitz wrote:
Can you amend the type error. It says moblie instead of mobile. I was copying and pasting to change the file names and this one did not work because of the error.
Done, and thanks for pointing it out - spelling never was a strong point of mine Embarassed

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sorry about this but i have been trying to put spoken voices on ut
Which device are you trying to load the spoken alerts on? - Mike
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 04, 2007 4:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

mikealder wrote:
Dan_Gleebitz wrote:
Can you amend the type error. It says moblie instead of mobile. I was copying and pasting to change the file names and this one did not work because of the error.
Done, and thanks for pointing it out - spelling never was a strong point of mine Embarassed

thehammer wrote:
sorry about this but i have been trying to put spoken voices on ut
Which device are you trying to load the spoken alerts on? - Mike
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sorry its a tomtom one
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 04, 2007 6:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

a big thank you to all of you who helped me. i have done it al last... :D :D Laughing Laughing thanks once again[/b]
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 04, 2007 8:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

i think the guide needs updating you dont show the rename for the

pocketgps_uk_mobile_var.ogg
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