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RobBrady Frequent Visitor

Joined: Jul 21, 2004 Posts: 2718 Location: Chelmsford, UK
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Posted: Fri May 13, 2011 11:35 am Post subject: Pensioner Dislikes A Speed Camera , So Refuses To Pay Fine |
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The Eastbourne Herald reports that East Sussex resident Malcolm Joel, 75, is contesting a speeding fine, even though he admits to travelling at 33 mph in a 30 mph zone.
The ticket actually claims he was travelling at 36 mph.
He triggered a speed camera on his way into Eastbourne and now refuses to pay the £60 fine. The reason? He contends, "It’s not a speeding trap, it’s a money trap”.
He also says “That’s the entrance for people coming into Eastbourne and if they come in and get flashed they’re not going to come back".
Just how successful Mr Joel's arguments will be remains to be seen.
A spokesperson from the Sussex Safer Roads Partnership commented, “Motorists of course have the right to take the matter to court. If the court finds that an offence has been committed, then the court may decide to increase the level of the fine.”
Any bets on the outcome? _________________ Robert Brady |
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DennisN Tired Old Man


Joined: Feb 27, 2006 Posts: 14907 Location: Keynsham
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Posted: Fri May 13, 2011 2:16 pm Post subject: |
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He wants to be careful - at his age, six months for contempt of court could mean life!!  _________________ Dennis
If it tastes good - it's fattening.
Two of them are obesiting!! |
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TCoopz Occasional Visitor

Joined: Apr 29, 2007 Posts: 2
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Posted: Fri May 13, 2011 8:40 pm Post subject: |
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"If the court finds that an offence has been committed, then the court may decide to increase the level of the fine.”
Trust the speedcam partnership to get that scare line in, by the way has anyone ever had a fine increased just because they contested it ??? |
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DennisN Tired Old Man


Joined: Feb 27, 2006 Posts: 14907 Location: Keynsham
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Posted: Fri May 13, 2011 10:29 pm Post subject: |
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TCoopz wrote: | by the way has anyone ever had a fine increased just because they contested it ??? |
How about this one? Although I doubt the fine was more than the normal £60 fixed penalty simply because he contested it, rather because the court can impose a higher fine and might tend to do so for time wasting? _________________ Dennis
If it tastes good - it's fattening.
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star3t Occasional Visitor

Joined: Nov 07, 2011 Posts: 1 Location: The North East, UK
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Posted: Mon Nov 07, 2011 4:31 pm Post subject: Speeding Ticket!! |
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1- You could pay it via A4V? However i think your still get the points.
2- Send them in response to there "'Notice of Intended Prosecution'" A Letter of Condictional Acceptance.
3- Send them a letter asking for clarfication of the following:
1a- That you (name) of the (surname) family are a corporation and are subjected to statutory law. (in this case the road traffic act)
1b- Proof that a lawful contract exsits between both parties that you agreed to this.
1c- what the "legal" defonetion of a "person" is.
State they have to present this information in a Affdavit format sworn under oath subject to perjury within 30 days.
After 30 days when you get no response send in (notice of discharge to speeding ticket & fine)
4- Wait till your court date and send in a copy of your birth certicate and ask them to crack on with the hearing. (look at all paperwork it is all adressed to your person ie MR John SMITH not the human being.
5- Just pay it and accept it and the 3 points. |
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gabbyevs Regular Visitor

Joined: Nov 08, 2007 Posts: 88
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Posted: Fri Nov 25, 2011 10:06 am Post subject: |
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yes they get money out of it stating the obvious but i can just imagine this old bloke moaning prob made his day just to find something to moan about
does he think its ok to speed |
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