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SJ Occasional Visitor
Joined: Jan 16, 2004 Posts: 11 Location: London
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Posted: Mon Sep 27, 2004 9:03 pm Post subject: Memory-Map with iPaq 4700 / WM 2003 SE |
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I’ve just taken delivery of an iPaq 4700. Two problems have arisen with MM OS 2004:
The lack of VGA support makes the maps look of poor quality.
Press and hold, of hardware buttons, no longer works to scale in and out. This feature is now included in the OS to increase the number of hardware buttons available, which seems to override MM.
Any word on an update or even, considering the time of year, a 2005 version?
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MrT Frequent Visitor
Joined: Nov 14, 2003 Posts: 2143 Location: Surrounded by A1, M1 & M25
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Posted: Tue Sep 28, 2004 9:18 am Post subject: |
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I assume you have set the buttons up in MM under Menu-Overlay-Settings? If you have this seems to be an annoying new setting, maybe it will be handled in a minor update.
Problem with MM is that if there is a MM2005, the Ordnance Survey licence restrictions will mean that you have to buy all new 2005 maps to go with it unless you are prepared to circumvent the terms of the licence with hacks. |
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IanM Occasional Visitor
Joined: 02/12/2002 09:15:01 Posts: 16 Location: United Kingdom
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Posted: Fri Oct 01, 2004 2:10 pm Post subject: |
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There is a way around the VGA issue if you're familiar with Windows development tools. The problem is that the Second Edition of Windows Mobile 2003 will pixel-double any applications that do not specifically say they will work in VGA. This is because most applications look silly if they only take up a quarter of the screen. However Navigator can usefully use the extra pixels.
To make it do so you need to add a new "HI_RES_AWARE" resource to the executable. The details are on the Brighthand forums here:
http://discussion.brighthand.com/showthread.php?s=4fd9a0681e9c6302f0aaf2e2c0dbb2a8&threadid=105601
It's possible even if you're not a developer, but if you are then it's pretty simple. I did it for memory map and the results are great on my Toshiba e800 (running SE). I actually prefered the application when it ran in VGA on the first edition of WM2003 because the toolbars were smaller so more area was used by the map (and there was no need to change the executable).
One minor point is that the scale rectangle is difficult to read because it's too small for the text inside it, but that's insignificant when you see how good VGA looks, showing 4 times the detail. I did send some bitmaps showing this to Pocket GPS months ago, but they never used them. Maybe they could dig them out now that VGA is more common.
I reckon that Memory Map should provide the executable as a download for non-developers. It certainly wouldn't be difficult for them to make the change, and I'm sure that most people would put up with any minor glitches in order to make the most of their VGA screens.
Cheers,
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SJ Occasional Visitor
Joined: Jan 16, 2004 Posts: 11 Location: London
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Posted: Sat Oct 02, 2004 7:21 pm Post subject: |
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I see what you mean, WOW, without the doublepixeling MM look great.
I used this method, it's much easier than using the developers tools:
http://www.pc-counselor.com/How_to/#doublepixeling
Thanks for the hint.
Now they just need to fix the scale in and out h/w butons,
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IanM Occasional Visitor
Joined: 02/12/2002 09:15:01 Posts: 16 Location: United Kingdom
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Posted: Tue Oct 05, 2004 9:56 am Post subject: |
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Thanks for the pointer to the easier way of handling pixel-doubling.
I see that there's another way of getting apps to use VGA with the release of a new VGA mode app for 2003SE:
http://discussion.brighthand.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=107944
I like this because it brings back the small taskbars that the original hacks had but SE doesn't. This means that you can get even more of a map on display at once. It's also excellent for other apps, especially Pocket Internet Explorer, which is awesome in landscape mode - it's almost like browsing on a laptop.
Cheers,
Ian. |
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mikealder Pocket GPS Moderator
Joined: Jan 14, 2005 Posts: 19638 Location: Blackpool , Lancs
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Posted: Sun Jan 23, 2005 9:14 pm Post subject: |
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IanM, I have just loaded the VGA application you linked to and - yes - what a difference with the OS maps at scaled in to the last but one prior to max deffinition the pixelation was a pain but now just pure clariy
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:D don't use the OS stuff on the 4700 too much but its nice for the odd walk
- no doubt it will get some serious use once we get into the summer months
- at least since loading the BT GPS fix for tomtom 3 the GPS now works with the OS stuff as well
- getting there but I think it will take some time to sort out what I really want from the PDA
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MikeB Frequent Visitor
Joined: 20/08/2002 11:51:57 Posts: 3859 Location: Essex, UK
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Posted: Mon Jan 24, 2005 11:02 am Post subject: |
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Looks like someone is listening to our requests.
Memory-Map US wrote: | Changes from 4.3.1 to 4.4.0
Pocket PC: Hi-res support for VGA screen
Added LOC & GPX File Import/Export
Tracklog: Automatic velocity spike rejection
Added fix type / quality to Satellites window.
Added HTML/CSV/XML templates for Route Card
Added import/export of Lowrance USR files (iFinder and Silva Atlas GPS)
Added CSV import/export of routes, tracks and text overlays
Added Molodensky three parameter datum shift specification for map import
Added Position Format: "Other Grid..." - imports user-defined projection parameter file
Import RGB Tif/GeoTiff import
Added Garmin datatypes 152 & 154 (GPS90 etc)
Added Suunto X9 GPS
More accurate distance calculations
Added Township & Range position format - Canada (Pro license)
3D: fixed "Home" keyboard shortcut (5 key)
Fixed crash caused by bad dates
Fixed crash on Overlay/Delete all while overlay props are selected
Fixed Garmin Quest track import/export
Fixed hotkey press-and-hold on iPaq h4700
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This has been released for the international version, so hopefully it will just be a matter of a few days before it is available for the OS version. _________________ Mike Barrett |
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MikeB Frequent Visitor
Joined: 20/08/2002 11:51:57 Posts: 3859 Location: Essex, UK
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Posted: Mon Jan 24, 2005 11:55 am Post subject: |
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I have just downloaded and installed the 4.40 software on my 4700. The results look like this:
Notice a couple of new icons on the tool bar. You can now hide the toolbar, also there is a quick method to create a mark. _________________ Mike Barrett |
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MikeB Frequent Visitor
Joined: 20/08/2002 11:51:57 Posts: 3859 Location: Essex, UK
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Posted: Thu Feb 10, 2005 8:09 pm Post subject: |
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Memory-Map have just released 4.4.0 for 2004 OS application.
Check out this thread for details. Includes VGA support. _________________ Mike Barrett |
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