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JonnyW Occasional Visitor

Joined: Sep 16, 2005 Posts: 39
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Posted: Mon Dec 19, 2005 2:22 pm Post subject: Speed Camera Removals |
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I have read about this previously and I am still convinced that some people are sending requests into PGPSW to have "safety" Cameras removed from the database. I drive a stretch on the A1 in the North East of England and this stretch of road has 4 Fixed Gatsos which have been there for years.
When I download and install the latest Speed Camera Databases, at least one of these will have been removed. There are two of these cameras which have been set alight :D but they are STILL IN USE albeit a little cooked.
I have re-added these to a POI file (and now of course... POI Capture) and sent them in, they have been re-added to the database(s) but only to find either that camera (or another) one has been removed.
I know the location of these cameras as I use the road twice a day so I am cautious but I fear other people may fall victim to these cash cows!
I have another POI file which I use to log "Police Presence". Whenever I see a Traffic Car hiding in the undergrowth or in a sneaky location, I add the GPS position to this POI and set a 800 yard alert so I get around a 1/2 mile warning of their prying eyes :D !! I've around one of the locations, the speed camera was removed from the database and so there would be no warning for the driver and his/her speed will be maintained (I am not suggesting they would be speeding though ) and the traffic car can nab them.
Call me paranoid if you wish but I have noticed this happening over a 2-3 month period.
I still reckon the police are removing these cameras. I am convinced of it. |
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Andy_P Pocket GPS Moderator


Joined: Jun 04, 2005 Posts: 19991 Location: West and Southwest London
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Posted: Mon Dec 19, 2005 2:47 pm Post subject: |
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A serious point. I've also noticed the odd camera location disappearing off the database.
I just add it back onto the list I send to the camera guys each month (with a note in the email mentioning that it is an existing one).
On a lighter note, for "Speed Camera Removals", I would recommend an angle grinder.  |
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JonnyW Occasional Visitor

Joined: Sep 16, 2005 Posts: 39
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Posted: Mon Dec 19, 2005 3:43 pm Post subject: |
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Andy_P2002 wrote: |
I just add it back onto the list I send to the camera guys each month (with a note in the email mentioning that it is an existing one). |
I don't know if this would be possible (I would probably volunteer) but to create an Excel spreadsheet and drop all the REMOVALS onto it along with the email address of the sender. When there are say 2 or 3 requests from DIFFERENT people, the request it is ACTUALLY REMOVED from the database.
This way, it ensures that no one person is being malicious and removing the cameras for the same of removing them.
As for the angle grinder idea?... It will certainly PERMINANTLY remove the damned things !! |
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peterc10 Frequent Visitor

Joined: Aug 21, 2005 Posts: 1761 Location: Kent, England
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Posted: Mon Dec 19, 2005 7:53 pm Post subject: |
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JonnyW wrote: | Andy_P2002 wrote: |
I just add it back onto the list I send to the camera guys each month (with a note in the email mentioning that it is an existing one). |
I don't know if this would be possible (I would probably volunteer) but to create an Excel spreadsheet and drop all the REMOVALS onto it along with the email address of the sender. When there are say 2 or 3 requests from DIFFERENT people, the request it is ACTUALLY REMOVED from the database.
This way, it ensures that no one person is being malicious and removing the cameras for the same of removing them.
As for the angle grinder idea?... It will certainly PERMINANTLY remove the damned things !! |
I am sure Oldboy will be along soon to tell you that is what he does. Past posts have confirmed that cameras are not removed because of just one report. |
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Tim Buxton Pocket GPS Moderator


Joined: 14/09/2002 20:56:18 Posts: 5231 Location: Surrey, United Kingdom
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Posted: Mon Dec 19, 2005 7:59 pm Post subject: |
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peterc10 wrote: | I am sure Oldboy will be along soon to tell you that is what he does. Past posts have confirmed that cameras are not removed because of just one report. |
I'll bet he won't. :D It's Oldie who does the maintenance. _________________ Tim |
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Oldboy Pocket GPS Moderator


Joined: Dec 08, 2004 Posts: 10644 Location: Suffolk, UK
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Posted: Mon Dec 19, 2005 8:25 pm Post subject: |
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Tim Buxton wrote: | peterc10 wrote: | I am sure Oldboy will be along soon to tell you that is what he does. Past posts have confirmed that cameras are not removed because of just one report. |
I'll bet he won't. :D It's Oldie who does the maintenance. |
Thanks Tim. You beat me to it . _________________ Richard
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Andy_P Pocket GPS Moderator


Joined: Jun 04, 2005 Posts: 19991 Location: West and Southwest London
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Posted: Tue Dec 20, 2005 2:41 pm Post subject: |
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Or not, anymore? |
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jblackmore Regular Visitor

Joined: Nov 22, 2004 Posts: 137 Location: Somerset, UK
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Posted: Tue Dec 20, 2005 2:57 pm Post subject: |
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Maybe the camera removal could be combined with the new chargable model to split the database into three releases.
Release 1 is free, and contains the current database as is - additions and removals suggested by the public.
Release 2 is free and is a conservative database, which has public additions but only official removals - so it would contain old or obselete camera's, but would still be useful for occasional drivers, or those who worry about fake removals.
Release 3 is chargable, and is the verified and professional database for professional drivers who need the security of a verified database ?
Just a thought ? |
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peterc10 Frequent Visitor

Joined: Aug 21, 2005 Posts: 1761 Location: Kent, England
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Posted: Wed Dec 21, 2005 9:43 pm Post subject: |
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Tim Buxton wrote: | peterc10 wrote: | I am sure Oldboy will be along soon to tell you that is what he does. Past posts have confirmed that cameras are not removed because of just one report. |
I'll bet he won't. :D It's Oldie who does the maintenance. |
Oops
I plead insanity or senile dementia. |
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