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MaFt Pocket GPS Staff
Joined: Aug 31, 2005 Posts: 15258 Location: Bradford, West Yorkshire
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Posted: Wed Nov 04, 2015 2:09 pm Post subject: TomTom Launch new GO 51 and 61 with Lifetime World Maps |
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TomTom have launched their two latest GO sat navs - the GO 51 and GO 61. Both have Lifetime World Maps, Lifetime Speed Cameras and Lifetime TomTom Traffic. The GO 51 has a 5" touchscreen and the GO 61 has a 6" touchscreen.
The current range of TomTom GO now all have Lifetime services included, although you need a smartphone data connection to use TomTom traffic on these two new devices.
The GO 51 and 61 are available now with an RRP of £139.99 and £159.99 respectively.
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Privateer Pocket GPS Moderator
Joined: 30/12/2002 17:36:20 Posts: 4918 Location: Oxfordshire, England, UK
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Posted: Wed Nov 04, 2015 2:30 pm Post subject: |
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But can you use Third Party POIs on them?
If TomTom offers life time maps and services where is their incentive to support the products after the first year? Surely TomTom is throwing away potential revenue by not charging for annual map updates and annual services like traffic?
Regards, _________________ Robert.
iPhone 6s Plus, iOS 14.0.1: iOS CamerAlert v2.0.7
TomTom GO Mobile iOS 2.3.1; TomTom (UK & ROI and Europe) iOS apps v1.29
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MaFt Pocket GPS Staff
Joined: Aug 31, 2005 Posts: 15258 Location: Bradford, West Yorkshire
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Posted: Wed Nov 04, 2015 4:00 pm Post subject: |
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My guess is they hope to outweigh the costs of map updates etc by selling more units. Remember, they OWN the maps as opposed to licensing them out so I'm sure there's some clever intra-company finance stuff going on... |
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larry17 Occasional Visitor
Joined: Feb 14, 2009 Posts: 8 Location: Queensland, Australia
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Posted: Thu Nov 05, 2015 12:05 am Post subject: 3rd party POIs |
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Yes, I would also like to know if third party POIs can be used. My Tomtom XL will have to do a bit longer if they don't! This has been an issue with TT GPS units for several years and we keep getting told they are working on it.
I'm starting to think they are using the world's Governments way of handling problems... |
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george57l Regular Visitor
Joined: Jan 17, 2006 Posts: 73 Location: UK
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Posted: Fri Nov 06, 2015 9:30 am Post subject: |
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I too would like to know about third party POIs. I've got a TT that must be getting on for 10 years old and it really is time I thought about replacement. It currently has several sets of POIs that I wish to retain. Having seen the recent $1m prize offered for anyone who could jailbreak iOS9, I'm not suggesting anyone could offer the same here, but surely someone sommewhere must be able to figure out how to jailbreak a TT so users can have control of THEIR device and add POIs of their choosing? I am not a techie so is this just an impossible pipedream in practice? |
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Moorish Occasional Visitor
Joined: Mar 03, 2007 Posts: 1
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Posted: Fri Nov 06, 2015 9:50 am Post subject: Latest Tomtom models |
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Have just upgraded from my GO910 to a refurbished GO920T. The issue of 3rd party POIs solved. Updating was a bit of a faff, but worked at second attempt. Delighted with this 8 year old model.
Let's hope it sees out my driving days. |
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K13ehr Lifetime Member
Joined: Jul 12, 2008 Posts: 286
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Posted: Fri Nov 06, 2015 10:08 am Post subject: |
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It raises the question of how long is "lifetime" according to TomTom, I'm still using my TT one Version 4, no plans to buy another and will not ever bother with the rubbish app again. |
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arfurdent Regular Visitor
Joined: Mar 05, 2006 Posts: 116
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Posted: Fri Nov 06, 2015 10:10 am Post subject: Latest Tomtom models |
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So what is in it for TomTom to allow third party POIs apart from a few extra sales. They locked down the operating system to block map pirates. Blocking third party POIs is part of the same process. |
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K13ehr Lifetime Member
Joined: Jul 12, 2008 Posts: 286
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Posted: Fri Nov 06, 2015 10:24 am Post subject: Re: Latest Tomtom models |
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arfurdent wrote: | So what is in it for TomTom to allow third party POIs apart from a few extra sales. They locked down the operating system to block map pirates. Blocking third party POIs is part of the same process. |
Blocking third party POI's might just kill them off for good, which seems to be their intention, how not to run a company. |
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Privateer Pocket GPS Moderator
Joined: 30/12/2002 17:36:20 Posts: 4918 Location: Oxfordshire, England, UK
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Posted: Fri Nov 06, 2015 11:49 am Post subject: Re: Latest Tomtom models |
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arfurdent wrote: | So what is in it for TomTom to allow third party POIs apart from a few extra sales. They locked down the operating system to block map pirates. Blocking third party POIs is part of the same process. |
TomTom were one of the first (they might even have been the first) to offer third party POIs to the public on the TomTom Navigator for Pocket PC. That made a huge change for users and helped sites like PocketGPSWorld to create its library of POIs.
Whilst TomTom built-in POIs are much better than they used to be, there are POIs that they may never have (in one convenient category) such as Friends and Family, business contacts, places for holidays like that little car park in the middle of nowhere for that perfect beach, etc.
You don't miss what you never had, but third party POIs are essential to a lot of people.
What TomTom gives, TomTom takes away. Have a look at Andy_P's Some depressing lists - What's been dropped in new models thread.
Regards, _________________ Robert.
iPhone 6s Plus, iOS 14.0.1: iOS CamerAlert v2.0.7
TomTom GO Mobile iOS 2.3.1; TomTom (UK & ROI and Europe) iOS apps v1.29
Garmin Camper 770 LMT-D |
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hertz Occasional Visitor
Joined: Apr 01, 2005 Posts: 9
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Posted: Fri Nov 06, 2015 1:03 pm Post subject: |
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Privateer wrote: | But can you use Third Party POIs on them? |
For my colleagues in the Electricity Supply Industry, the ability to use 3rd party POIs is essential. We have the Company's database of local substations on TomToms allowing us to drive directly to hundreds of substations, some of which can be in obscure positions. When your electricity goes off due to a fault on the network, the faster engineers can get to the switching points to isolate the fault and re-route supplies the better - there's nothing worse than driving round and round a dark housing estate trying to find the substation to get power back on! |
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navver Regular Visitor
Joined: Dec 12, 2005 Posts: 111 Location: Chipping Sodbury
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Posted: Fri Nov 06, 2015 8:58 pm Post subject: |
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I work for a Council and have about 300 buildings to visit from time to time. I have made a POI file of them all which makes it easy. I use that on an old Go520. POIs are essential Tomtom.
The other point is, I believe lifetime maps an services means for the lifetime of the device being current with Tomtom. If they bring out a new model each year that means 1 year only. _________________ Tomtom Go520, App 8.010, Map UK&ROI 810.1870 |
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DennisN Tired Old Man
Joined: Feb 27, 2006 Posts: 14901 Location: Keynsham
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Posted: Fri Nov 06, 2015 9:32 pm Post subject: |
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Now that they have moved over to lifetime maps and lifetime Traffic, there is surely no longer any need to protect the copyright of their maps?
My GO1005 died yesterday and I've bought a 5100 for full world lifetime mapping and lifetime Traffic. Yet again another example of what TomTom bring out new is worse than before. I now have to find out how this thing works (if it ever stops twirling round updating the map - been going over an hour already). _________________ Dennis
If it tastes good - it's fattening.
Two of them are obesiting!! |
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K13ehr Lifetime Member
Joined: Jul 12, 2008 Posts: 286
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Posted: Sat Nov 07, 2015 8:23 am Post subject: |
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I think I may have said this before, but for outright usability as far as POIS are concerned I've not found anything to bear Maps.me https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.mapswithme.maps.pro just convert OV2 to KML email it to yourself open the email and it automatically pops into Maps.me, adding new ones touch the maps and save it.
I have Copilot for Android and as a map it's OK but yesterday I had to come back from Rossendale to Pudsey at 4pm and it kept re-routing me to the worst possible roads, as an ex courier I knew which way to go, took an hour but I did not get stuck in traffic once, had I followed it, it would been 2 hours easily, sorry off topic, meant to moan about it's handling of POIs, which is awful, I can do it but I'm limited to the amount of categories and even when I do get them on I can only see my local are no distant ones visible which is stupid, if I want to got to POIs in another county etc, by looking on the map and selecting it, as I can with my old TomTom and also M.Me. |
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AliOnHols Pocket GPS Verifier
Joined: Oct 15, 2008 Posts: 1940
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Posted: Sat Nov 07, 2015 10:13 am Post subject: |
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Thanks for that tip K13ehr, I've just installed it and shall give it a try. _________________ Garmin Nuvi 2599
Android with CamerAlert, OsmAnd+, Waze & TT Europe.
TomTom GO 730, GO 930, GO 940 & Rider2.
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