No sign of Apple relenting on the security of the App resource folders so that you can use Diskaid to update camera and personal POI's (or TomTom designing their app properly to read POI files from the Inbox area).

I think it's going to stay like that folks! For the first time in over 10 years I can't access my customer sites POIs natively from my navigation app . . . POIViewer is ok as a workaround - it's even a nice app - but I miss being able to see the upcoming cameras in TomTom and TomTom's free one-time update of the cameras that they offered with this update is hilariously useless to the point where I have turned it off...

There was sweet spot where this worked more-or-less exactly how I wanted it to with IOS5. *sigh* Those were good days - I miss them already.

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Rich.
Kit: TomTom iPhone WEurope on iPhone6s+ / iPad Pro
w/ Interphone BT headset on a Honda Blackbird (should change this really - the bike, not the headset)

TomTom have long since had the means to support third party POIs but choose not to implement it. Apple have a documented feature for just this sort of requirement, others use it, TomTom don't. Complain to them.

Darren Griffin

I would certainly complain but I would be adding my voice to a long list of those who shout down the TomTom "feedback" well and don't even get an echo. TomTom want you to buy their Cameras service and they don't care how awkward they make it for people who prefer something better.

No, not true - they DO care. They care that they might accidentally make it too simple / easy to use a competitor's service. They are anti-competitive, especially on the iPhone where they have (for reasons I don't understand) committed to lifetime map updates for free, albeit on a completely arbitrary schedule. Quite why they think anyone would pay for map updates on any other platform of theirs is a mystery to me, except that they seem immune to market forces - and their customers with PNDs are happy to pay.

But you are right - they need feedback and they shall have it. I don't expect it to do any good though...

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Rich.
Kit: TomTom iPhone WEurope on iPhone6s+ / iPad Pro
w/ Interphone BT headset on a Honda Blackbird (should change this really - the bike, not the headset)

My reply sounded terse and it wasn't intended to, the downside of replying via a smartphone

What I meant was that it's not Apple's sandbox policies at fault here, other companies have made use of the facilities provided to incorporate external data into an app but TomTom, in the typically pig headed way that seems to be their chosen modus operandi these days, choose not to.

I guess it could even be described as 'Apple Like'. TomTom have decided that third party POIs, the service that was partly responsible for making their nav devices so popular in the early days, are no longer important.

But it was customer outcry that got them added into NAV3 device such as the GO 1000 and we all need to tell them that we want it in their apps too.

Darren Griffin

Let's see what happens, shall we? You never know...

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Rich.
Kit: TomTom iPhone WEurope on iPhone6s+ / iPad Pro
w/ Interphone BT headset on a Honda Blackbird (should change this really - the bike, not the headset)

The Apple maps themselves are a joke.

Just look at the A9 north of Perth to Inverness....it's the same colour (white) as the side roads.

Ditto the A82 north of Erskine Bridge, it is fragmented at first then also changes to a white side road.

Both the above being A class trunk roads.

As for the colouring, when did motorways stop being blue in the UK? Trunk A roads green?

Talk about safety and ease of use......

What I failed to appreciate was Apple maps are embedded in many other map apps. Hardly any other blog or review makes this point.
e.g. RAC
Trafficmaster
Plane viewer

FWIW, Apple provide a mapping API to developers. Developers use that to gain easy access to map data within their own apps.

The map data source is whichever Apple chooses to use, so where it was formerly Google, it's now their own. It affects us with CamerAlert too. Apple will hopefully resolve the issues, and Apple's map data is at least Vector data rather than bitmap which Google used, so is more efficient where mobile data is concerned.

But this is off-topic for this thread which concerns TomTom's app. You may wish to start a new one if you wish to discuss it further.

Darren Griffin

Well, only a request for more information from a first-level tech support person (possibly) who is asking for my proof of purchase in order to progress my support request. Cheeky sods . . .

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Rich.
Kit: TomTom iPhone WEurope on iPhone6s+ / iPad Pro
w/ Interphone BT headset on a Honda Blackbird (should change this really - the bike, not the headset)

I don't think they are lower quality personally.

Darren Griffin