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New SPECS install on notorious stretch but why no barriers


pocketgpsworld.comPeterborough Today report that work on a new SPECS installation has begun along a stretch of the notorious Forty Foot Bank Road between Ramsey and Chetteris in Cambridgeshire where six lives have been lost in the past three years.

A perfectly sensible use of the technology you would be forgiven for thinking until you discover that this road runs directly alongside a river and there is no barrier between the carriageway and the river itself. And the lives lost have been a result of vehicles entering the river, often in the dark or as a result of heavy fog.

So instead of installing crash barriers that would prevent vehicles from leaving the road they instead choose to install a SPECS system that will be less effective but will of course raise revenue.

Other sections of this road are protected by barriers so why has SPECS been chosen to protect this section?
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Posted by gingercat on Thu May 28, 2009 10:25 am Reply with quote

The reason would be because this is a popular boy-racer stretch... People drive like complete nutters along it.


 
Posted by MikeB on Thu May 28, 2009 10:26 am Reply with quote

This is actually a common theme, and if you think about it makes perfect sense from a pen-pusher accountant's point of view.

When you look at a lot of places that speed cameras have been installed, you will see obvious defects in road planning or maintenance. It is far cheaper to install a £300,000 speed camera system and reduce the speed limit than to tackle the real issues of poor planning, design and bad maintenance.


Mike Barrett

 
Posted by Darren on Thu May 28, 2009 10:31 am Reply with quote

And it still won't prevent cars ending up in the river.


Darren Griffin

 
Posted by MaFt on Thu May 28, 2009 11:14 am Reply with quote

Darren Wrote:
And it still won't prevent cars ending up in the river.


no, but at least they will have a lower average speed as they hit the water... Evil or Very Mad


 
Posted by pcaouolte on Thu May 28, 2009 11:28 am Reply with quote

Barriers are not likely to be effective on this stretch of road unless they are installed on very deep concrete piles at enormous expense. The road runs very close to the edge of the river, normal barrier support posts would just be pushed into the river when struck by a vehicle.

The safest solution would be to move the road away from the river but this would also be prohibitively expensive.

If the cameras cause drivers to lower vehicle speeds then small driving mistakes will be less likely to result in vehicles entering the water.

I am not a fan of cameras but I can see that they may provide the cheapest solution in this case.


Paul

 
Posted by GerryC on Thu May 28, 2009 11:47 am Reply with quote

Also, the LACK of barriers puts more responsibility on the driver to be careful driving. If there are barriers, the driver can think "it's OK the barrier will stop me" when it won't necessarily.

Are there any of those "x accidents here" signs up saying how many have driven into the river?

Is there an extra road on any satnavs there - you know "my satnav told me to turn there"? Out of here


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Posted by M8TJT on Thu May 28, 2009 3:57 pm Reply with quote

GerryC Wrote:
Also, the LACK of barriers puts more responsibility on the driver to be careful driving.

But they aparantly don't do this. It appears that they seem to throw caution to the wind and themselves into the river. Confused


 
Posted by kensaunders on Thu May 28, 2009 6:02 pm Reply with quote

I for one absolutely hate unnecessary cameras; HOWEVER as up to last year I had to travel on this stretch of road daily to work for 4 years.

I am not a slowcoach, however people who travel on this stretch would appreciate, that the only safe speed in good conditions is aprox 60mph.

The usual thing that happens is that some nutters fly past at 80-90, not 70 but 80-90 and they seem to relish the challenge of beating you to the next corner.

This is in my honest view the only way ahead, being average speed cameras is better and more efficient then static ones.

It will not stop the accidents in thick fog, but what would?


 
Posted by Darren on Thu May 28, 2009 6:06 pm Reply with quote

I've said previously that I am generally in favour of average speed cams whereas I'm wholly against the other types.

But whilst in this case I accept it may help, there is no substitute for a decent barrier to keep cars on the carriageway should the inevitable occur.


Darren Griffin

 
Posted by MikeB on Thu May 28, 2009 8:07 pm Reply with quote

Darren Wrote:
... there is no substitute for a decent barrier to keep cars on the carriageway should the inevitable occur.

I would rather say there is no substitute for common sense a quality that appears to be sadly lacking in a lot of drivers today.


Mike Barrett

 
Posted by Darren on Thu May 28, 2009 9:06 pm Reply with quote

MikeB Wrote:
I would rather say there is no substitute for common sense a quality that appears to be sadly lacking in a lot of drivers today.

If that were the case we wouldn't need safety belts, crash helmets or airbags. Time to join the real world methinks.


Darren Griffin

 
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