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Motorists anger at hidden North Wales camera van


Article by: Darren Griffin
Date: 7 Apr 2016

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A Go Safe speed camera van has attracted the ire of drivers and motorist organisations after a photo was posted on the Speed Camera Spotters North Wales Facebook group.

The camera van, on Llandudno Road in Rhos-On-Sea was hidden in the access to an electricity sub station and its deployment in that location has been called a cynical money making opportunity by Go Safe. Llandudno Road is a 30mph limit and it has attracted frequent criticism for being inappropriate.

Whilst guidelines for mobile camera enforcement staff advise that they should not be"covert" many are suggesting this is just that.

Source: Speed Camera Spotters North Wales Facebook Group.



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Posted by Kremmen on Thu Apr 07, 2016 9:15 am Reply with quote

It's only a moneymaker if you are breaking the law !

Looking at the photo this is a residential area so greater than 30 is surely dangerous


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Posted by Privateer on Thu Apr 07, 2016 11:39 am Reply with quote

Kremmen Wrote:
Looking at the photo this is a residential area so <30 is surely dangerous

So LESS THAN 30 is dangerous! Shocked

Yeah, I know, it was a dilleberate mistake! Wink Due to the GREATER THAN sign being an HTML tag which we can't post. Laughing

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Posted by Kremmen on Thu Apr 07, 2016 12:56 pm Reply with quote

Oh yes, I hit the wrong key I'll amend it to words.


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Posted by Bunty1948 on Thu Apr 07, 2016 4:52 pm Reply with quote

Kremmen Wrote:
It's only a moneymaker if you are breaking the law !

Looking at the photo this is a residential area so greater than 30 is surely dangerous


Yes I don't disagree, but the original purpose of these cameras was supposed to be a deterrent and should therefore be visible. I wonder how many drivers even driving at or under the speed limit panic break after they eventually see this one. Here in North Yorkshire it is not unusual to see camera vans tucked neatly between other vehicles in laybyes. And in these cases they are fund raising not making the roads safer.


 
Posted by Kremmen on Thu Apr 07, 2016 5:06 pm Reply with quote

Yes, 2 sides of logic.

1) Better slow down because they hide the vans and when you see them it's too late.

2) Drive as fast as you like but keep your eyes out because they are easily visible.


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Posted by sgould on Thu Apr 07, 2016 9:52 pm Reply with quote

The car and the telegraph post directly in front of the van would not give it a clear view of oncoming traffic. It could be argued that all the readings are invalid...


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Posted by M8TJT on Thu Apr 07, 2016 10:08 pm Reply with quote

They only need a clear shot of about 1/3of a second, and I doubt to the extreme that "It could be argued that all the readings are invalid..."


 
Posted by JockTamsonsBairn on Thu Apr 07, 2016 11:17 pm Reply with quote

It's not very well hidden, is it?


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Posted by ticklepin on Fri Apr 08, 2016 7:44 am Reply with quote

Simple - don't go to Llandudno. They are obviously more interested in money than safety.


 
Posted by druck on Fri Apr 08, 2016 8:16 am Reply with quote

The householder next door with the blue car, needs to put a couple of extra bricks on their gate pillars, to stop this abuse!


 
Posted by Cunninar on Fri Apr 08, 2016 8:19 am Reply with quote

I have absolutely no problem with the principle that we should all be driving at an appropriate speed for both conditions and limits.

What concerns me is that this idiotic operative is blocking the access to an electrical substation. What happens if the electricity company needs to get into there in a hurry for safety reasons, such as needing to turn the power off to avoid danger to, or loss of life?

It duly makes a mockery of the 'Safety Partnership' label.


 
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