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SPECS3 average speed cameras launched Motorcyclists beware



Last month saw the launch of the latest Average Speed Camera system at Traffex 2009 in Birmingham, UK. This system is called SPECS3 and is a (huge) upgrade to the current Average Speed Cameras SPECS1. Speed cameras have evolved: First we had the single Gatso lying in wait to capture the errant driver, then the speed cameras stalked in pairs to catch your average speed, now with SPECS3 they hunt in packs over an entire area...

These systems can be installed as both front facing or rear-facing cameras. Motorcyclists beware: you are no longer immune to capture.


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Posted by MikeB on Wed May 06, 2009 5:50 pm Reply with quote

I forgot to mention that the video is 17 minutes long...


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Posted by Matt865 on Wed May 06, 2009 6:41 pm Reply with quote

Should we just hand the keys to The Royal Mint to SCS and allow them to literally print money?


 
Posted by Darren on Wed May 06, 2009 6:51 pm Reply with quote

I'm sure they'd love the cash but they get paid the hardware only, not the fines!


Darren Griffin - Editor

 
Posted by Matt865 on Wed May 06, 2009 6:56 pm Reply with quote

True, but the more money the government raises through fines, the more cameras they'll buy to expand coverage and further increase revenue. I wouldn't be surprised if within the next 20 years our entire motorway and major A-road networks will be controlled with these.

It's a wonder they trust us to drive our own cars at all.


 
Posted by MaFt on Wed May 06, 2009 6:59 pm Reply with quote

Matt865 Wrote:
Should we just hand the keys to The Royal Mint to SCS and allow them to literally print money?


i just hope they DO only use them in areas that need it such as 20mph areas around schools. if they start appearing everywhere then that's gonna get silly...

having said that, just stop for an extra 5 seconds at every junction and that'll soon get your average speed down if it has crept over a little!

MaFt


I have the flat cap, just need a whippet...

 
Posted by DennisN on Wed May 06, 2009 9:08 pm Reply with quote

MaFt Wrote:
just stop for an extra 5 seconds at every junction and that'll soon get your average speed down if it has crept over a little!

That rather defeats the object of hurrying in the first place - aren't you "creeping over a little" by trying to beat the five seconds? Laughing


Dennis

I'm getting a cat flap for my whippet

 
Posted by MikeB on Wed May 06, 2009 10:19 pm Reply with quote

Matt865 Wrote:
True, but the more money the government raises through fines, the more cameras they'll buy to expand coverage and further increase revenue. I wouldn't be surprised if within the next 20 years our entire motorway and major A-road networks will be controlled with these.

It's a wonder they trust us to drive our own cars at all.

If the reports they claim of ticketing are anything like correct then the fines dont come anywhere near the cost of the installations and running costs.

You do the math:

A77 Installation cost 300,000 4 tickets per week 240 (ignoring the management overhead) the cameras need to be in place for 22 years to even cover the installation costs let alone make money.

A616 Installation cost 300,000 80 tickets per week. Installation will pay for itself in 63 weeks.

That doesnt sound like coin it in... In fact SCS seem to get a pretty good deal from that. It makes sense then for other savings to be brought into the equation to justify the cost of these systems.


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Posted by MikeB on Wed May 06, 2009 10:21 pm Reply with quote

MaFt Wrote:
Matt865 Wrote:
Should we just hand the keys to The Royal Mint to SCS and allow them to literally print money?


i just hope they DO only use them in areas that need it such as 20mph areas around schools. if they start appearing everywhere then that's gonna get silly...

having said that, just stop for an extra 5 seconds at every junction and that'll soon get your average speed down if it has crept over a little!

MaFt

I have a crafty way to defeat the government filling its coffers with speeding ticket fines...

Keep to the posted speed limits. Twisted Evil


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Posted by MikeB on Wed May 06, 2009 10:23 pm Reply with quote

MaFt Wrote:
i just hope they DO only use them in areas that need it such as 20mph areas around schools. if they start appearing everywhere then that's gonna get silly...
MaFt


Come on down to South East Essex. It was silly a long time ago, now it is ridiculous... Shocked


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Posted by JockTamsonsBairn on Wed May 06, 2009 11:47 pm Reply with quote

MikeB Wrote:
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A77 Installation cost 300,000 4 tickets per week 240 (ignoring the management overhead) the cameras need to be in place for 22 years to even cover the installation costs let alone make money.

A616 Installation cost 300,000 80 tickets per week. Installation will pay for itself in 63 weeks.
...
Mike, I'm not arguing with the figures, but how can so many people be caught by the A616 cameras versus the A77 ones? If I remember correctly, the A616 ones have been in place a lot longer than the A77 ones, so must have paid for themselves already?

I'd love to see the figures from the widening of the M74 at Gretna/Carlisle. Every time I went through many overtook me going sufficiently fast to be NIPped.


Jock

TomTom Go 940 LIVE (9.510, Europe v915.5074 on SD & 8.371, WCE v875.3613 on board)

 
Posted by gem on Thu May 07, 2009 9:40 pm Reply with quote

[quote="JockTamsonsBairn"]

MikeB Wrote:
...
A77 Installation cost 300,000 4 tickets per week 240 (ignoring the management overhead) the cameras need to be in place for 22 years to even cover the installation costs let alone make money.



I don't believe for one minute only 4 tickets are issued per week, or some 200 per annum. Where is the source?


 
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