Home PageFacebookRSS News Feed
PocketGPS
Web
SatNav,GPS,Navigation
SurfShark Antivirus
Pocket GPS World - SatNavs | GPS | Speed Cameras: Forums

Pocket GPS World :: View topic - How do you charge your TT ?
 Forum FAQForum FAQ   SearchSearch   UsergroupsUsergroups   ProfileProfile   Log in for private messagesLog in for private messages   Log inLog in 

How do you charge your TT ?
Goto page 1, 2  Next
 
Post new topic   Reply to topic    Pocket GPS World Forum Index -> TomTom Portable Navigation Devices
View previous topic :: View next topic  
Author Message
KOTULCN
Occasional Visitor


Joined: May 20, 2006
Posts: 9

PostPosted: Sat Dec 22, 2007 3:31 pm    Post subject: How do you charge your TT ? Reply with quote

I always left my 910 on the desktop cradle charging until I needed it, but with the 920 and its new battery Tomtom says that is bad for battery endurance. How do you guys charge yours? And how long do you leave it on the charger?
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
HummerUK
Frequent Visitor


Joined: Apr 21, 2007
Posts: 332
Location: East Sussex

PostPosted: Sat Dec 22, 2007 4:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I just use my 520 off the car adapter while in the car so the internal battery is hardly ever used/needed.

HummerUK
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
if1977
Lifetime Member


Joined: Nov 30, 2007
Posts: 649
Location: Doncaster

PostPosted: Sat Dec 22, 2007 4:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

When keeping your battery on charge all the time it does not help your battery life in the long run. This would not matter if you onlly use your TT in the car as it allways gets power but if you want to use it for walks and on your bikeyou will not get a long from your battery.

What i do is once a week i leave my TT on all night with no external power connected to it and in the morning it is completly discharged and when i go out connect it to my car and then re-charge it. Doing this once a week means you are using all the battery cells and will make your battery life last longer.

I would always recommend fully discharging and recharging any kind of battery oonce a week if used every day.
_________________
NEW Tomtom GO 500 (hope it is good)
iphone (running all day, doesn't like it)
XL LIVE IQ Routes (Got stolen and miss it)
GO 510 (in drawer now, time for upgrade)
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
Oldboy
Pocket GPS Moderator
Pocket GPS Moderator


Joined: Dec 08, 2004
Posts: 10642
Location: Suffolk, UK

PostPosted: Sat Dec 22, 2007 6:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

if1977 wrote:
I would always recommend fully discharging and recharging any kind of battery oonce a week if used every day.
I wouldn't. Wink

http://www.batteryuniversity.com/parttwo-34.htm
_________________
Richard

TT 910 V7.903: Europe Map v1045
TT Via 135 App 12.075: Europe Map v1120
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Visit poster's website
LesP2008
Lifetime Member


Joined: Apr 05, 2006
Posts: 524
Location: Herts

PostPosted: Sat Dec 22, 2007 6:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks Richard, i found that an interesting read.
Reading his credentials i would hazard a guess and say he knows his stuff.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
mikealder
Pocket GPS Moderator
Pocket GPS Moderator


Joined: Jan 14, 2005
Posts: 19638
Location: Blackpool , Lancs

PostPosted: Sat Dec 22, 2007 6:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Whilst deep discharging the battery by leaving the device on but not powered will not occur as the device will power down once the cell capacity is nearing empty this is indeed bad practice.
Leaving the device powered in the car all the time it is in use won't noticably harm the cell fitted to the unit as the type of battery employed does not suffer from memory problems that used to happen with NICAD type rechargeable cells. Just leave it powered in the car, this should top it up all the time it is used - Mike
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Send e-mail MSN Messenger
if1977
Lifetime Member


Joined: Nov 30, 2007
Posts: 649
Location: Doncaster

PostPosted: Sat Dec 22, 2007 7:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

So would you say mike that keeping your battery on charge all the time will not effect the batteries performance if you wish to use it without the dock.
_________________
NEW Tomtom GO 500 (hope it is good)
iphone (running all day, doesn't like it)
XL LIVE IQ Routes (Got stolen and miss it)
GO 510 (in drawer now, time for upgrade)
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
mikealder
Pocket GPS Moderator
Pocket GPS Moderator


Joined: Jan 14, 2005
Posts: 19638
Location: Blackpool , Lancs

PostPosted: Sat Dec 22, 2007 7:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have no issues with doing this, the cell type fitted accepts a finite number of full recharges lets say 500 charge cycles from empty to full.

If the battery is at 90% when I plug it in each time I can expect 5000 charges before the cell dies, as I am only topping off the cell each time, this "topping off" consumes only 10% of one full charge cycle, so it would take 10 such recharges to count as 1 against the total available from the cell. If you understood military aircraft servicing schedules relating to flying hours and fatigue life consumption you could see a similarity, in addition the calendar back stop would dictate when the cell is past its best and should be replaced, they do degrade with age.

Heat build up will also affect the cell by doing this and in reality the battery will suffer very slightly, with 365 days in a year I do not expect to be using the same sat nav for 5 years let alone 10, realistically the cell will probably die after 2 to 3 years use, by then I will be using something else truth be known.

I do not use the device out of the car very often, the odd demonstration in the pub or at work to show off the camera database and warnings or to explain how to do something to someone, otherwise it is on charge whilst in use - Mike
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Send e-mail MSN Messenger
if1977
Lifetime Member


Joined: Nov 30, 2007
Posts: 649
Location: Doncaster

PostPosted: Sat Dec 22, 2007 8:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yea fair enough guys, I thought that the battery had seperate cells in it hence the reason to let the battery run down. To be honest i dont think i will have the same Unit this time next year either. It might be too soon to ask but will their be an upgrade to the 520 in the pipeline next year.
_________________
NEW Tomtom GO 500 (hope it is good)
iphone (running all day, doesn't like it)
XL LIVE IQ Routes (Got stolen and miss it)
GO 510 (in drawer now, time for upgrade)
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
mikealder
Pocket GPS Moderator
Pocket GPS Moderator


Joined: Jan 14, 2005
Posts: 19638
Location: Blackpool , Lancs

PostPosted: Sat Dec 22, 2007 8:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

No doubt we will be looking at new maps and another new version of software at some point, whether we see a Navcore version 8 next year who knows - it is bound to happen at some point though - Mike
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Send e-mail MSN Messenger
KOTULCN
Occasional Visitor


Joined: May 20, 2006
Posts: 9

PostPosted: Sun Dec 23, 2007 1:58 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

my problem is I hate having the car charger draped across the dash and I cant get more then 2 hours of use on a full charge. I plan on hardwiring a power cord soon.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
if1977
Lifetime Member


Joined: Nov 30, 2007
Posts: 649
Location: Doncaster

PostPosted: Sun Dec 23, 2007 4:12 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

In my Astra i managed to put the cord through to centre of the dash at the cirarette lighter and then run it along the bottom of the dash and up the drivers sice door pillar behund the door seal and then plug it in to my TT at the bottom corner of the windscreen. I also hate the cord hanging down the dash.
_________________
NEW Tomtom GO 500 (hope it is good)
iphone (running all day, doesn't like it)
XL LIVE IQ Routes (Got stolen and miss it)
GO 510 (in drawer now, time for upgrade)
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
Scotty-uk
Regular Visitor


Joined: Dec 24, 2006
Posts: 61
Location: J7 M11 (Essex)

PostPosted: Sun Dec 23, 2007 12:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm also tempted to hardwire my 910 but I'm concerned about the voltages etc. Can I just wire the dock straight in to my 12V car supply?
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
mikealder
Pocket GPS Moderator
Pocket GPS Moderator


Joined: Jan 14, 2005
Posts: 19638
Location: Blackpool , Lancs

PostPosted: Sun Dec 23, 2007 12:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

You cannot run the device straight from a 12V supply, you will burn it out within mili seconds.

What you can do is fit another cigy lighter socket behind the dashboard that is connected to the 12V supply (accross the existing ciggy socket is easiest). Then plug the TomTom charger lead into the socket and hide all the wiring behind the dash, tape up the charger lead and new socket to prevent it from vibrating out. Maplins sell the socket, they cost only a couple of quid see Here

A word of caution, if your vehicle is fitted with airbags please take care when messing around in the are behind the dash, you don't want to set one of them off - Mike
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Send e-mail MSN Messenger
Darren
Frequent Visitor


Joined: 11/07/2002 14:36:40
Posts: 23848
Location: Hampshire, UK

PostPosted: Sun Dec 23, 2007 12:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Scotty-uk wrote:
I'm also tempted to hardwire my 910 but I'm concerned about the voltages etc. Can I just wire the dock straight in to my 12V car supply?

NO NO NO! The GO requires 5v and the reduction takes place in the charger plug. Put 12v into the dock and you'll fry the GO.

If you want to 'hard wire', wire in an extension cigarette lighter socket hidden behind the dash and plug the supplied charge lead into that or use a 3rd party dock such as the Brodit or Carcomm that is designed for hard wiring.

I used to use the extension socket method and it works well and is easily removed or used with a new device should you upgrade. I got mine from Maplins (£2.99 shown below), I chopped off the plug and wired it into the fusebox using a suitable fused supply. The GO plug connects into the extension socket and I used insulating tape to secure it in the socket.


_________________
Darren Griffin
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Send e-mail Visit poster's website







Posted: Today    Post subject: Pocket GPS Advertising

Back to top
Display posts from previous:   
Post new topic   Reply to topic    Pocket GPS World Forum Index -> TomTom Portable Navigation Devices All times are GMT + 1 Hour
Goto page 1, 2  Next
Page 1 of 2

 
Jump to:  
You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum
You cannot vote in polls in this forum

Make a Donation



CamerAlert Database

Click here for the PocketGPSWorld.com Speed Camera Database

Download Speed Camera Database
22.053 (15 May 24)



WORLDWIDE SPEED CAMERA SPOTTERS WANTED!

Click here to submit camera positions to the PocketGPSWorld.com Speed Camera Database


12mth Subscriber memberships awarded every week for verified new camera reports!

Submit Speed Camera Locations Now


CamerAlert Apps



iOS QR Code






Android QR Code







© Terms & Privacy


GPS Shopping