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DaveO1959
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 30, 2005 3:25 pm    Post subject: TomTom One or Garmin i3 Reply with quote

OK simple question, which is best the: TT One or the i3?

I have a TT One on reserve at the local Argos for pick up tomorrow at £223.99.

I had an i3 but returned it due to the v7 maps with the intension to re-purchase when the v8 was widely available. The TT One at £279 was too expensive bot at £223.99 it is tempting.

Is the TT worth the extra £54? If so, why?

Are there any things the i3 does better?

If the mapping is more or less the same in terms of capability I don't mind the smaller screen of the i3.

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PostPosted: Wed Nov 30, 2005 3:31 pm    Post subject: Re: TomTom One or Garmin i3 Reply with quote

DaveO1959 wrote:
OK simple question, which is best the: TT One or the i3?

Is the TT worth the extra £54? If so, why?

Horses for courses. Only you can come up with the correct answers for yourself. Someone else may come up with a different answer, but that does not mean that either of you is necessarily wrong.
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 30, 2005 3:54 pm    Post subject: Re: TomTom One or Garmin i3 Reply with quote

kartracer wrote:
DaveO1959 wrote:
OK simple question, which is best the: TT One or the i3?

Is the TT worth the extra £54? If so, why?

Horses for courses. Only you can come up with the correct answers for yourself. Someone else may come up with a different answer, but that does not mean that either of you is necessarily wrong.


I could come up with the answers myself if I owned both units and tested them myself. I am not in a position to do be able to do that. At the moment the difference between to the two to my eyes is size, GUI and of course price.

None of those differences are deal breakers one way or the other. So I have come up with those answers to that part of it. Also I won't be taking advantage of the TT One's traffic avoidance feature via blue-tooth so that is not a factor either.

If they were the only differences I could save myself £54 and get the i3. However I suspect there is more to it than that based purely on the perceived reputation (deserved or otherwise) of TomTom mapping v Garmin mapping.

So I was hoping someone could enlighten me if there are any significant differences in the performance of the units that would, for example, make the decision of which one to go for a no-brain'er.

Does the TT route better? Does either company provide better and/or more frequent updates? Are the two equally reliable?

I have searched the forums and seen threads on i3 routing being a bit awry occasionally but I was hoping for some more feedback - and quick - as I only have the reservation on the One until tomorrow.

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PostPosted: Wed Nov 30, 2005 4:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

OK. Lets discuss the differences.

There are numerous threads in these forums about dodgy routeing. I think that for just about every software/hardware combination there are some who are delighted and some who hate it. You just can't take anyone else's opinions as indicative of how you will find it.

The i3 uses Navteq mapping which is generally acknowledged to be better than the TeleAtlas mapping which recent versions of TT have used.

Features: I can't think of anything the i3 does that TT doesn't, but there is also nothing in TT that I would miss while using an i3. Others may disagree and not many have the TT One just yet. You have already mentioned the difference in screen sizes.

Update frequency: Garmin wins this one hands down.

I generally use a PDA with TT5, but am quite happy to use my wife's i3. If I had no GPS equipment already then I would buy the i3. Others would choose the TT One or some other combination. It is not a matter of what equipment is best, but what combination of features suits you best.
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 30, 2005 5:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

kartracer wrote:
OK. Lets discuss the differences.

There are numerous threads in these forums about dodgy routeing. I think that for just about every software/hardware combination there are some who are delighted and some who hate it. You just can't take anyone else's opinions as indicative of how you will find it.


Yes I suppose that is true and I assume the old adage no news is good news applies here in that people who don't have routing problems won't be posting in the same volume as those who have.

While I appreciate that, the routing thread in the I3 forum did ring alarm bells. I think someone said it sometimes comes up with strange routes at the end of your journey. That put me off because it is usually the end of a journey I would be looking to GPS to guide me as I usually have a good idea of the general direction of my destination.

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The i3 uses Navteq mapping which is generally acknowledged to be better than the TeleAtlas mapping which recent versions of TT have used.


OK one up for the i3!

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Features: I can't think of anything the i3 does that TT doesn't, but there is also nothing in TT that I would miss while using an i3. Others may disagree and not many have the TT One just yet. You have already mentioned the difference in screen sizes.


I am assuming the One is pretty much a 300 equivalent routing-wise and I was under the impression 300's were well liked and possibly superior to an i3.

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Update frequency: Garmin wins this one hands down.


Good to know.

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I generally use a PDA with TT5, but am quite happy to use my wife's i3. If I had no GPS equipment already then I would buy the i3. Others would choose the TT One or some other combination. It is not a matter of what equipment is best, but what combination of features suits you best.


I assume TT5 is equivalent to the One software? If you are (for want of a better word) ambivalent to the difference between TT5 and the i3 software then that goes a long way to answering my main question and I can decide on product features such as size and so on.

The fact the i3 does not have a huge windscreen fixing mechanism appeals as it makes the whole thing more portable. I would not want to leave a trace of the GPS unit in the car and the idea of lugging the TT windscreen bracket around doesn't appeal.

Thanks for the feedback.

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PostPosted: Wed Nov 30, 2005 6:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

kartracer wrote:
The i3 uses Navteq mapping which is generally acknowledged to be better than the TeleAtlas mapping which recent versions of TT have used.

Sorry but that is not true in my experience. I have used a RIDER which uses
Navteq and a GO running TeleAtlas side by side and if I'm honest find TA at least as good and in my home area a darn site better as Navteq class any publically accessible military road as private. Living near Aldershot makes that a real pain!

Given the Argos price reduction for the one to £225 and its larger touch screen it'd be the one I bought.
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 30, 2005 10:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Darren wrote:
Sorry but that is not true in my experience.

As I tried to point out; in these discussions "best" is bit of a subjective expression.
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 30, 2005 10:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

kartracer wrote:
As I tried to point out; in these discussions "best" is bit of a subjective expression.

Of course but it's a claim that's often made and difficult to test normally. Few potential buyers have the opportunity to test long term the maps from both providers.

However, the arrival of RIDER with Navteq mapping was useful as it is essentially a GO. A comparison over the last three months has left many of us Beta testers opting for the TeleAtlas mapping instead.
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 30, 2005 10:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Darren wrote:
kartracer wrote:
As I tried to point out; in these discussions "best" is bit of a subjective expression.

Of course but it's a claim that's often made and difficult to test normally. Few potential buyers have the opportunity to test long term the maps from both providers.

However, the arrival of RIDER with Navteq mapping was useful as it is essentially a GO. A comparison over the last three months has left many of us Beta testers opting for the TeleAtlas mapping instead.


And for balance, others have opted to use the NAVTEQ ones. Taunt

I would have put an emoticon a motorcyclist but there isn't one, so I childishly opted for this one instead.
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 30, 2005 10:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Tim Buxton wrote:
And for balance, others have opted to use the NAVTEQ ones. Taunt

I would have put an emoticon a motorcyclist but there isn't one, so I childishly opted for this one instead.

Yes but we all know you're already unbalanced Stop it!
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 30, 2005 11:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

being an owner of an i3 personally if I was buying and it was a toss up as to get a one or an i3 the one would win I'm afraid as with the one you can browse the map you can do this on an i3 and putting a waypoint in is much harder on the i3 becaue you can pick a point from the map
having run tt5 and the i3 at the same time for me the routing was about the same also updating pois and speed camera databases also later on you may want to use the traffic
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 30, 2005 11:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi Dave,

If I were you I'd make my mind up fast cause Argos are trying to get out of the same agreement with me that you have, read the second reply in the folowing link: -

http://pocketgpsworld.com/modules.php?name=Forums&file=viewtopic&t=31539

HTH
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 14, 2005 10:24 pm    Post subject: i3 data entry for street numbers Reply with quote

I noticed how cumbersome the scrol wheel was in enetering street names and especially numbers. Loads of scroll wheel action and when entering numbers I had to scroll through A-Z every time I added a number. It was tedious and I realized how they could have reoriented the numbers to the top of the list with letters below.

I really wanted to like the i2 B/W version of i3 but felt another method of data entry would bond with me.

Try and get in front of each unit and experience the data entry logic.
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 28, 2005 5:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

does anyone know if the One is coming to the US??
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