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eBay and Other Sites Offering Our Safety Camera Database
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matb
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 30, 2006 8:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

did not realise there was a full 24 pages set out to this until i posted a seperate topic, from which i was asked to tranfer my findings.
here is the straight cut and paste.

following an audit on ebay, not long ago, a very large number of sellers were found to be offering what can only be described as the pocketgps camera database, either as a cd or email option.

i am pleased to say that after searching the 1136 items on offer, searching under garmin, there was only 5.

9705894575 99p
9704241436 £1.49
9705646482 £2.99
9705391419 99p
9705521633 99p


a vast improvement

if i remember correctly someone was contacting ebay with a view to complaining. if so what was the response.

i obviously now know so hope my findings help our fight
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 30, 2006 8:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sadly complaining to eBay has fallen on corporate 'deaf' ears. I asked why despite having reported some sellers more thant five times they are still in posession of their accounts. eBay responded that the criteria for closing a sellers account was confidential and they could/would not discuss it.

However, the good news is that we have had a marked effect with a great many less sellers than we used to have although some are trying new tatctics such as claiming the data is not ours or not specifically mentioning the data on the listing although supplying it on the CD (I have no idea how this benefits them?).

Mat, I have now reported the listings you have alerted me to as well, I appreciate it Smile
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 31, 2006 12:08 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

This one sounds dodgy.

9703562909

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PostPosted: Fri Mar 31, 2006 12:16 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

And this one.

9503734915

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PostPosted: Fri Mar 31, 2006 8:53 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ako wrote:
This one sounds dodgy.

9703562909

Dave

No problem with that one, no database included.
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 31, 2006 1:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Here are a few more:
9705115141
9706069555
9704584089
9705115141
9706290144
also check 9703922793 it doesn't mention the database, but the cameras are split the same way as this sites.
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 31, 2006 1:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

mikealder wrote:

also check 9703922793 it doesn't mention the database, but the cameras are split the same way as this sites.
Mike

Reported the others but i can't find this one?
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 31, 2006 2:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Neither can I but its on my spread sheet with a note against it, so it was there, perhaps its been lifted. One more I did find though:
9704071385
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 31, 2006 7:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

And another one, buts thats all I could find so its working
9704250105
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 31, 2006 7:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Cheers Mike, report filed Twisted Evil
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 01, 2006 12:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

fabulous how the not so mighty fall, serves you right pocket GPS for selling what you do not own Ha Ha Ha
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 01, 2006 12:31 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

hey Darren, you have to hand it to them they take what is not theirs(like you) and under cut you by £1.01, and 99p is not a bad deal for the same thing!!
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 01, 2006 1:04 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

If you want to fund the illegal purchase of the database then you will have to live with it. (Yes I have even done this on ocasions just to nail the sellers, and subsequently shut them down Sad what a shame)

If you want to download the database from a torrent site for free you will have to live with it (and the knowledge that the data could be seriously screwed up, and therefore useless Twisted Evil), it is like anything in modern life you get what you pay for.

Most people respect the site for what it is, and what it provides as a service if you don't like it please find an alternative as good as this sites offering at the price - Me thinks this will take some time to find

As for the cost, less than a pint in your local for a single month of data,
or less than a cup of tea/ coffee per day for a week, lets put this into real terms and a decent perspective - Mike
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 01, 2006 1:07 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

sorry yes lets put it in real terms your no better than the ebayers, public submit the cams then YOU charge for it, sorry if you think its out of line but hey its the truth no matter what you throw back at me....
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 01, 2006 1:16 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

oh and now it illegal elsewhere because you charge for it, id like to see it stand up in court mate i truley would, a publicly submitted database that you now claim to be yours, wheres the proof its yours, have you got permission from every person that submitted asking for there permission. your selling others info that you claim is yours, i for one would like to see you take someone to court over it, id like to hear a judges decision over this so called owed/illegal if it not from you database. it public domain info as far as i can see, its not software or a creation that you solely made or own, the only thing i can see is that the sumissions where uploaded to your site, does that make you the owner?


i can understand you feel your ,missing out on income, you saw ebayers making money from ot and thought im having some of that, makes you no different in my book.
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