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wychwoods Occasional Visitor
Joined: Sep 21, 2004 Posts: 16 Location: Herts/Essex border
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Posted: Tue Jan 01, 2008 7:26 pm Post subject: Different levels of detail in TomTom maps? |
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My ancient TomTom GO is still running Great_Britain_Plus v571 for daily use but with Maps of Western Europe (2004 vintage on 4 CD-ROMS) for trips into France, etc.
Now that TT are offering the discounted map updates, is there any point buying the v7.1 GB & Ireland map for £30 when the whole of Western Europe costs only £10 more? Is the UK content of Western Europe of lower detail than the GB-specific product?
I've also got the USA Maps v368, purchased at immense expense in 2005 (cost EUR250). TT now offer v7.1 mapping of regions of the US for £30 each or the entire North American continent for just another £5. Again, can anyone confirm if the regional maps are of higher detail than the entire USA?
OS has been upgraded recently to v7.161, so I'm hoping MapShare will be activated with the upgraded maps - correct?
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Oldboy Pocket GPS Moderator
Joined: Dec 08, 2004 Posts: 10643 Location: Suffolk, UK
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Posted: Tue Jan 01, 2008 8:34 pm Post subject: |
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The Road detail, in general, is the same in both maps. The larger maps are generally more compressed with less detail in the scenery part: woods, fields, rivers, etc.
I don't know the detail in the various US Maps.
If you are using 7.16x software and a 7.10 Map then Mapshare will be available to you. _________________ Richard
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DennisN Tired Old Man
Joined: Feb 27, 2006 Posts: 14901 Location: Keynsham
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Posted: Tue Jan 01, 2008 8:36 pm Post subject: |
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I've been using Western Europe maps for two years now, in my job as whitevanman going all over the UK. I have no problems with the street level details on them and cannot think the regional map of GB & I is any more detailed than the Europe one. You'll save a fortune buying the Europe one instead of the regional ones.
Note that nowadays, you must have TT Home and broadband to download maps - no more CDs etc. _________________ Dennis
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Andy_P Pocket GPS Moderator
Joined: Jun 04, 2005 Posts: 19991 Location: West and Southwest London
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Posted: Tue Jan 01, 2008 9:16 pm Post subject: |
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Report yesterday on another forum:
Quote: | I've just got from xmas a XL with western europe maps, v7.10, but i noticed that a lot of roads in my home town are now missing. And the map have some huge errors, like one of the major road on my home town is cutdown in half. A lot of other towns around have some of these errors.
A relative of mine has bought a XL with regional maps, (Portugal and Spain), and it came with V6.75 maps, We did a test drive, and his maps were almost perfect in comparison to my 7.10 maps.
Even my old Go500 with V5 maps as better coverage
How can that be?
I just thought that Western Europe maps were a collage of all the regional maps!
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So I think it depends where you live whether the actual road detail has stayed the same! |
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wychwoods Occasional Visitor
Joined: Sep 21, 2004 Posts: 16 Location: Herts/Essex border
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Posted: Tue Jan 01, 2008 10:09 pm Post subject: |
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Thanks all for your quick replies on possible differences in mapping detail between regional and continent-wide TT maps.
Andy_P's reply about road errors appearing in new maps that were OK before makes me wonder how TT stand with the Trade Descriptions Act. If you buy an upgraded map on the strength of a particular road being on the old version, it would be more than reasonable to expect the road to be there on a newer version. Does TT offer a money-back guarantee if a map does not meet your requirements? I think I might post that as a question to TT Support.
Now we have MapShare, this raises an interesting question. Will changes reported by users of the GB & Ireland map be available to those with the Western Europe map, and vice versa?
Cheers,
Frank |
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Andy_P Pocket GPS Moderator
Joined: Jun 04, 2005 Posts: 19991 Location: West and Southwest London
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Posted: Tue Jan 01, 2008 10:45 pm Post subject: |
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Mapshare only allows you to block/unblock or rename existing roads. It doesn't allow you to ADD missing roads, only to report them for a future new map which they will allow you to pay for!
Good question about whether Mapshare works across different map versions though.
Seems daft if the same error would have to be reported twice, once for a UK map and again for a Europe map.
Anyone know the answer? |
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LesP2008 Lifetime Member
Joined: Apr 05, 2006 Posts: 524 Location: Herts
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Posted: Wed Jan 02, 2008 6:55 pm Post subject: |
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Andy_P2002 wrote: | Mapshare only allows you to block/unblock or rename existing roads. It doesn't allow you to ADD missing roads, only to report them for a future new map which they will allow you to pay for!
Good question about whether Mapshare works across different map versions though.
Seems daft if the same error would have to be reported twice, once for a UK map and again for a Europe map.
Anyone know the answer? |
If it seems daft,unreasonable or just plain old stupid, then we can almost certainly count on TomTom implementing it. |
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NukeThemAll Regular Visitor
Joined: Mar 31, 2006 Posts: 129 Location: Hampshire, UK
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Posted: Wed Jan 02, 2008 7:58 pm Post subject: |
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I have graduated from an old (v6) UK-only map to a v7.10 West Europe map and can confirm that, so far as I can tell, the WE map is every bit as detailed as the regional. In fact....because the original map had to fit on a 256Mb card (along with all of the actual programme and other stuff) I'd almost think that there's slightly more detail on the newer WE map eg demarcation of woodland, housing areas etc. Hope that helps.
If you decide to purchase a WE map, try for the 1.7Gb version; other contributors' consensus is that the 0.9Gb version has less detail, and the 2 map versions are the same price. You'll need to tell TTHome that you own eg a 920 and then it will show the larger WE map in the choice list. A 2Gb card will suffice (assuming a TT Go uses SD card? Or is it a fixed hard disk?) _________________ TT GO app on Android Phone
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wychwoods Occasional Visitor
Joined: Sep 21, 2004 Posts: 16 Location: Herts/Essex border
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Posted: Wed Jan 02, 2008 11:11 pm Post subject: |
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Excellent advice, NukeThemAll - thanks!
My TT Go currently has 1GB SD card (delivered as part of the USA maps some years back), but does anyone know what the card size limit is for that old model?
I know the new WE maps are a seamless set for the entire continent, but does that mean it is one physical file or is it in sections that could be loaded as required?
-Frank |
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xda Lifetime Member
Joined: Mar 11, 2004 Posts: 1199 Location: Park Gate
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Posted: Thu Jan 03, 2008 1:54 am Post subject: |
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wychwoods wrote: | Excellent advice, NukeThemAll - thanks!
My TT Go currently has 1GB SD card (delivered as part of the USA maps some years back), but does anyone know what the card size limit is for that old model?
I know the new WE maps are a seamless set for the entire continent, but does that mean it is one physical file or is it in sections that could be loaded as required?
-Frank |
The map data is contained in one data file so it is loaded as one complete map covering the whole of Europe, it is not possible to split it into sections. The complete map, and software will require a min 2GB card to install it all on. _________________ Graham.
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wychwoods Occasional Visitor
Joined: Sep 21, 2004 Posts: 16 Location: Herts/Essex border
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Posted: Fri Jan 11, 2008 9:43 pm Post subject: Regional & full maps are same level of detail says TomTo |
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Answer from TomTom Support:
"The regional maps of Europe and the U.S contain exactly the same level of detail as the full maps."
I've told them it might be useful to post that information on their website so potential customers can make an informed decision.
Don't hold your breathe...
-Frank |
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GerryC Pocket GPS Moderator
Joined: Mar 01, 2005 Posts: 1513 Location: West Mids
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Posted: Fri Jan 11, 2008 10:01 pm Post subject: Re: Regional & full maps are same level of detail says T |
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wychwoods wrote: | "The regional maps of Europe and the U.S contain exactly the same level of detail as the full maps." |
It's implied that this is the case by saying it's "detailed" (as opposed to "major routes") with "street coverage 99%".
Why would they make it clear that you should just buy a EU map for a bit more when they could get more cash out of you buy country maps as required? _________________ Gerry
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wychwoods Occasional Visitor
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Posted: Fri Jan 11, 2008 10:12 pm Post subject: |
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Now you are being cynical... |
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