Unusual speed camera icon problem

NigeF-51 · Occasional Visitor Joined: Mar 02, 2006 Posts: 7

Hi all,

I've not found any reference to this anywhere, but I have a problem with the speed camera icons on my 2595LM.

I'm using the Pocket GPS World cameras with ASH10's Camera Manager, my own custom icons (which are 24x24,8-bit, etc) and the PGPSW wavs; which generally works fine.

However, random cameras will have their icon replaced with the Garmin 'little black square' icon. It's not always the same camera and it also seems to be independent of zoom level. None of my other icons/POI types exhibit this trait.

Any ideas?

Regards,

Nige

PaulB2005 · Posted: Sun Jul 29, 2012 7:53 am Post subject:

This used to happen in the past if you loaded over 255 categories of POI. Check how many individual CSV files you are loading.

It could also happen if you have a BMP missing or corrupt.

It might narrow things down if you can identify which cameras have icons missing.

NigeF-51 · Occasional Visitor Joined: Mar 02, 2006 Posts: 7

Hi,

I'm only loading 33 POI categories, including all the various speed camera ones.

The only one not to have an icon is the Camera Manager generated 'Overspeed' file. All the others appear to be OK and present and as the occurrence of this is random, I don't think it is a problem with the icons (i.e. a camera will show up fine on one journey, but may not on the next etc. and which camera it affects is random).

Regards,

Nige

MaFt · Posted: Sun Jul 29, 2012 9:45 am Post subject:

I think Camera Manager duplicates all the locations. Perhaps the Garmin software can't make up it's mind on which icon to show at each identical location and so it shows one at random - either the actual speed or the 'missing' one that shows as a black square?

Maybe trying it without the overspeed option and see if that helps? Or make sure that you have all the Camera Manager icons installed correctly?

MaFt

dales · Posted: Sun Jul 29, 2012 11:24 am Post subject:

Myself, I DO have an overspeed icon. I'm pretty sure it came from Ash10. It's just a dot 1 x 1 pixels. If it's not present, then in overspeed conditions I expect Garmin will use its default icon.

Dales.
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NigeF-51 · Occasional Visitor Joined: Mar 02, 2006 Posts: 7

Thanks for the suggestions, I'll try it with out the overspeed files and also with an overpeed icon which is either tiny or effectively transparent. Although I don't think it will make a difference in this case as I was below the overspeed triggering speed.

Regards,

Nige

NigeF-51 · Occasional Visitor Joined: Mar 02, 2006 Posts: 7

Not had a chance to do any testing on the road this week, but by using the simulator, I think I've cracked it.

Initially I tried creating a'blank' icon for the Overspeed files, that got rid of the Garmin little square but as before, several cameras didn't appear. So next I tried MaFt's suggestion of not having the overspeed option (which doesn't worry me as a former TT user I didn't have it there) and lo and behold, so far it appears to be showing all the cameras on my test route.

Thanks all, I'll update this once I do a real world drive,

Regards,

Nige

MaFt · Posted: Sun Aug 05, 2012 2:25 pm Post subject:

So, it appears to be when there are 2 icons in very very close proximity (in your case on top of each other) then that causes the black dot of death?

MaFt

walkerx · Posted: Sun Aug 05, 2012 3:41 pm Post subject:

i tried different sized icons on my nulink 2390 and they never displayed correctly even though I was told by Garmin you could use any size - After mailing them back regarding this was told that best to use 22x22 icons.

I've also noticed though that a lot of camera images don't show up, even though the PGPSW alerts are sounding

There are a lot of the spec ones missing from the current construction work on the M62

NigeF-51 · Occasional Visitor Joined: Mar 02, 2006 Posts: 7

Hi MaFt,

If it was that, I would've thought it would happen to all the camera icons as the camera and its associated overspeed icon would be co-located, however it was random and sometimes a camera would be affected on one journey but not the next.

I deliberately took a detour on my way out today to pass a site where there are two sets of two cameras in very close proximity and with the overspeed files removed all displayed correctly.

I'll be doing a longer journey next Friday, so I'll keep an eye on it but my feeling at the moment is that it's working and I'll not worry about not having the overspeed option.

Regards & thanks,

Nige

NigeF-51 · Occasional Visitor Joined: Mar 02, 2006 Posts: 7

Hi,

Did a longish journey yesterday and all appears to be working as per my last test i.e. without the ;Overspeed' POIs. Everytime a camera audio warning came up I checked the display and the corresponding icons were showing, at one point there were three overlapping icons all showing.

Regards,

Nige

Kremmen · Posted: Sat Aug 11, 2012 6:56 am Post subject:

I don't have any 'overspeed icons'. The overspeed facility is just another proximity setting using the main camera icon/location.

It's starting to look like the newer Garmins don't like overlapping icons.

If this is starting to look like a problem I'm sure I can port my application 'adjacent cameras' code into a smaller app to remove these, subject to the usual site approval.

I just take the Lat and Long coordinates and if another camera is within 0.001 of both figures then the second one gets removed.
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walkerx · Posted: Sat Aug 11, 2012 10:58 am Post subject:

That may still not work - I think it's an issue with the display refresh on the newer devices

On one road the icons don't show up if I'm going one way, but do the other.

On another I've noticed a fuel icon for a petrol station no longer there, but on other days it's not there.

But if I exit to the menu and the go back to the map the icons are there

This is the same for speed warnings they may linger on the device but if do the above when return to the ma view the alerts have gone

so this is not an issue with the PGPSW database. GPX Convertor or Ash's Camera Manager but an actual issue with the newer devices themselves and I the only way to fix the issues has to come from Garmin themselves

Kremmen · Posted: Sun Aug 12, 2012 6:38 am Post subject:

Do these newer devices have a specific icon resolution requirement ?

Also, is there a location you can find where when you zoom in icons that overlapped no longer do so and does that help ?
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NigeF-51 · Occasional Visitor Joined: Mar 02, 2006 Posts: 7

I believe they use up to 24x24 and that is the size I'm currently using. I tried at 22x22 and 24x24 when I was having the display problem with no apparent difference in performance.

There is a spot on the A303 where two camera icons overlap close to me that I was using to see if the overlap and varying the zoom level had an effect and before removing the overspeed files it again appeared to make no difference.

Nige

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