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Darren Frequent Visitor
Joined: 11/07/2002 14:36:40 Posts: 23848 Location: Hampshire, UK
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Posted: Sun May 18, 2008 9:34 am Post subject: |
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Whilst I'd be very interested to hear more about this story I suspect it is simply untrue.
Happy to be proved wrong of course but if its true why not state the force involved? _________________ Darren Griffin |
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Skippy Pocket GPS Verifier
Joined: 24/06/2003 00:22:12 Posts: 2946 Location: Escaped to the Antipodies! 36.83°S 174.75°E
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Posted: Sun May 18, 2008 10:06 am Post subject: |
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talexuser wrote: | We’ve recently received reports that a particular Police force have been illegally confiscating Speed Camera Detectors… |
In other words, , "Man, our stuff is soooo good that the Police want to take it off us."
The story sounds like complete marketing BS to me..... _________________ Gone fishing! |
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MaFt Pocket GPS Staff
Joined: Aug 31, 2005 Posts: 15156 Location: Bradford, West Yorkshire
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Posted: Mon May 19, 2008 8:23 am Post subject: |
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nice of them to reference the original news articles (bbc for the horsebox cam and i can't remember the original blue van source...)
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Kremmen Pocket GPS Verifier
Joined: Mar 03, 2006 Posts: 7059 Location: Reading
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Posted: Mon May 19, 2008 10:56 am Post subject: |
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I've got some Talex humour :
My Talex subscription has just expired so I'm going to use the free Novus updates from now on _________________ Satnav:
Garmin 2599 LMT-D (Indoor test rig)
DashCam:
Viofo A119 V3
Car Average MPG :
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PaulB2005 Pocket GPS Moderator
Joined: Jan 04, 2006 Posts: 9323 Location: Durham, UK
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Posted: Mon May 19, 2008 11:45 am Post subject: |
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Quote: | The only way to protect yourself against these 'illegal' Mobile Speed Traps |
Are they illegal?
And if they are they surely someone would take their case to court and show get something done about it.
Or should we really NOT highlight it in court, put up with it and buy a box to detect them instead? I'm confussed.... |
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talexuser Occasional Visitor
Joined: Jan 15, 2008 Posts: 48
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Posted: Mon May 19, 2008 1:22 pm Post subject: |
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Active jammers are a different thing and a different story, but gps based map data devices with trap locations are prefectly legal and I've never heard of anyone being hassled for having one. |
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MaFt Pocket GPS Staff
Joined: Aug 31, 2005 Posts: 15156 Location: Bradford, West Yorkshire
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Posted: Mon May 19, 2008 2:29 pm Post subject: |
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talexuser wrote: | Active jammers are a different thing and a different story, but gps based map data devices with trap locations are prefectly legal and I've never heard of anyone being hassled for having one. |
i think paul was referring to the 'illegal' mobile sites mentioned by talex
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PaulB2005 Pocket GPS Moderator
Joined: Jan 04, 2006 Posts: 9323 Location: Durham, UK
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Posted: Mon May 19, 2008 2:37 pm Post subject: |
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Quote: | think paul was referring to the 'illegal' mobile sites mentioned by talex |
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talexuser Occasional Visitor
Joined: Jan 15, 2008 Posts: 48
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Posted: Mon May 19, 2008 4:41 pm Post subject: |
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ah! sorry, thought it was confiscating talex and similar gps based devices
surely without some national or local news reference on the confiscating story this just looks highly suspicious marketing - but then that's talex
I know of stories of beating fixed cameras in or before court because they broke the law in siting or warning etc, there must be similar laws on mobile sites? |
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smstextaddict Lifetime Member
Joined: Nov 26, 2005 Posts: 82 Location: oxford
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Posted: Thu May 22, 2008 11:37 pm Post subject: |
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their are ACPO guidelines, but then thats it. guidelines. |
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Darren Frequent Visitor
Joined: 11/07/2002 14:36:40 Posts: 23848 Location: Hampshire, UK
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Posted: Fri May 23, 2008 7:34 am Post subject: |
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On what? There are no ACPO guidelines on the confiscation of laser/radar detectors as they are at the moment 100% legal.
The forthcoming 4th and final section of the Road Safety Bill, due Q3/4 this year will outlaw active detection which encompasses radar AND laser detectors, something Mr Blair fails to mention in all the marketing of his device.
Then it WILL be an offence to operate one. Whether the Bill will go as far as outlawing the possession of one we don't yet know. Personally I think it should, otherwise it will require proof that it was being used. Much better that anyone found in possession of one commits the offence. _________________ Darren Griffin |
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PaulB2005 Pocket GPS Moderator
Joined: Jan 04, 2006 Posts: 9323 Location: Durham, UK
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Posted: Fri May 23, 2008 7:37 am Post subject: |
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I think smstextaddict is saying there are ACPO guidelines on "siting or warning" of cameras. As they are just guidelines if a camera is placed in a "dodgy" location no law has been broken, only guidelines. |
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Darren Frequent Visitor
Joined: 11/07/2002 14:36:40 Posts: 23848 Location: Hampshire, UK
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Posted: Fri May 23, 2008 7:40 am Post subject: |
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Ah right, my apologies! <Steps down off soap box!> _________________ Darren Griffin |
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smstextaddict Lifetime Member
Joined: Nov 26, 2005 Posts: 82 Location: oxford
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Posted: Sun May 25, 2008 8:54 am Post subject: |
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PaulB2005 wrote: | I think smstextaddict is saying there are ACPO guidelines on "siting or warning" of cameras. As they are just guidelines if a camera is placed in a "dodgy" location no law has been broken, only guidelines. |
Exactly what im saying before mods jump down my throat. Everyone says that they can/cant do something because of the ACPO guidelines, but everyone seem to forget that the guidelines are just that guidelines and not law (even through they are meant to follow the guidelines as part of their funding).
You will also get the over zealous cop who thinks he knows the law but is wrong. I have fallen foul to one about 5 years ago who when i went to produce my mot certificate and insurance for my lorry confiscated them from me as he thought the mot certificate was a forgery as it didnt have an embossed stamp on it. Neitherless to say we got a very appologetic phone call the following day from the station commander along with a visit that weekend from the station commander and an offficer who brought back the documents and were very appologetic (thinking professional standards was the real reason). |
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PaulB2005 Pocket GPS Moderator
Joined: Jan 04, 2006 Posts: 9323 Location: Durham, UK
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Posted: Sun May 25, 2008 10:48 am Post subject: |
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Quote: | Exactly what im saying before mods jump down my throat. |
No-one is jumping down your throat, it was just a misunderstanding over what your posting referred to.
Quote: | their are ACPO guidelines, but then thats it. guidelines. |
On it's own this could have referred to any of the subjects being debated above, but if you'd said
"there are ACPO guidelines [on the use and siting of cameras], but then thats it. guidelines."
then we'd all have known what you were referring to.... |
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