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b33jay Lifetime Member
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Posted: Tue Apr 11, 2017 9:13 pm Post subject: Removing countries from updates |
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As previously on my 2340 the latest update for my 2589 exceeds the capacity of the device memory despite having removing most of the unwanted voices etc files. I have used an SD card to load the update but would prefer just to have the PGPSW French cameras on a card so it can be removed 'tout de suite' if stopped.
As I really don't need the whole of Europe mapping is it possible to remove unwanted countries from the update to reduce the size to fit the device memory?
Incidently, with the 2340 the later larger updates split Europe in two parts to get the lack of memory problem. The drawback was that the UK was lumped in with northern Europe and not combined with France, Spain and Portugal which is probably the combination most Brits would choose. |
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sussamb Pocket GPS Verifier
Joined: Mar 18, 2011 Posts: 4457 Location: West Sussex
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Posted: Tue Apr 11, 2017 9:56 pm Post subject: |
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Yes but not easily and without penalties. I just run the map and French cams on the card. _________________ Where there's a will ... there's a way. |
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b33jay Lifetime Member
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Posted: Wed Apr 12, 2017 5:28 pm Post subject: |
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sussamb wrote: | Yes but not easily and without penalties. I just run the map and French cams on the card. |
Thank you. I suspected as much. I note that Garmin sell various combinations of countries on SD card including Benelux and France. Could this replace the 'whole of Europe' (CN Europe?) that came with the 2589? Not that I wish to spend £35 to do so but should I cock up an update at any time in the future!!!!
Why do they design sat navs with so little spare capacity that updates become too large for the internal memory?
Rhetorical question ..... I know why. |
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sussamb Pocket GPS Verifier
Joined: Mar 18, 2011 Posts: 4457 Location: West Sussex
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Posted: Wed Apr 12, 2017 8:03 pm Post subject: |
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The more recent drive models have ample space. At least mine does. _________________ Where there's a will ... there's a way. |
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Kremmen Pocket GPS Verifier
Joined: Mar 03, 2006 Posts: 7057 Location: Reading
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Posted: Thu Apr 13, 2017 4:29 am Post subject: |
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I had to change my 2597 from Europe to UK&I and contrary to the warnings I've not noticed any reduction or loss of functionality.
I actually wonder if working with a smaller area/database makes it work better.
Being as I have no intention of driving on the wrong side of the road I don't need full EU maps. _________________ Satnav:
Garmin 2599 LMT-D (Indoor test rig)
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Viofo A119 V3
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M8TJT The Other Tired Old Man
Joined: Apr 04, 2006 Posts: 10118 Location: Bexhill, South Sussex, UK
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Posted: Thu Apr 13, 2017 8:52 am Post subject: |
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Kremmen wrote: | I had to change my 2597 from Europe to UK&I | How do you do that K? |
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Kremmen Pocket GPS Verifier
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Posted: Thu Apr 13, 2017 8:56 am Post subject: |
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One of last years updates, or the year before was too large so it offered the option to switch.
I think the latest ploy is to fill the device with a temp text file to fill it up then go for a map update. It may decide you haven't got enough room and offer alternative maps. _________________ Satnav:
Garmin 2599 LMT-D (Indoor test rig)
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Viofo A119 V3
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JoeGriffin Occasional Visitor
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Posted: Fri Apr 14, 2017 10:32 am Post subject: |
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Kremmen wrote: | I had to change my 2597 from Europe to UK&I and contrary to the warnings I've not noticed any reduction or loss of functionality. |
I had this on my update to 2018.10 on the 2599. So I chose UK & ROI. As it said it would lose Voice Command, I then bought a micro SD card but after fitting it and going for the update, it put all Europe onto the 2599, with nothing on the card. I guess the original full Europe was too big to allow the updated full Europe to be installed in parallel (I guess it puts the new map on before it updates the old, so you're never left with no map if it fails.) _________________ ... Joe
Garmin Montana 600
Garmin DriveSmart 51LMT-D
Garmin Nuvi 2599LMT-D
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Kremmen Pocket GPS Verifier
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Posted: Fri Apr 14, 2017 11:35 am Post subject: |
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I was warned about losing voice control on my 2597, but being as it was a spare unit I went ahead anyway and ....... voice control works just fine.
My 2599 took 2018.01 onboard OK, probably because I've deleted all the foreign language files. _________________ Satnav:
Garmin 2599 LMT-D (Indoor test rig)
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Viofo A119 V3
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b33jay Lifetime Member
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Posted: Fri Apr 14, 2017 4:48 pm Post subject: |
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JoeGriffin wrote: | Kremmen wrote: | I had to change my 2597 from Europe to UK&I and contrary to the warnings I've not noticed any reduction or loss of functionality. |
I had this on my update to 2018.10 on the 2599. So I chose UK & ROI. As it said it would lose Voice Command, I then bought a micro SD card but after fitting it and going for the update, it put all Europe onto the 2599, with nothing on the card. I guess the original full Europe was too big to allow the updated full Europe to be installed in parallel (I guess it puts the new map on before it updates the old, so you're never left with no map if it fails.) |
That's odd. When I updated my 2589 with 2018.10 there was no alternative to choose it was just Europe which it then stated was too large so I used an SD card. The update is split more or less 50/50 between card and internal memory. So how does an update work? Does it replace the existing mapping completely or just replace those parts that need updating? Surely it cannot load the update then delete the original as appears to be suggested (in parallel).
I had already stripped everything that I didn't use such as voices etc so had the maximum internal capacity possible. I think I had 800+KB free of 7.4GB memory with a 7.8GB update.
Wonder if it's worth removing the card and trying another go at 2018.10? |
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Kremmen Pocket GPS Verifier
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Posted: Fri Apr 14, 2017 6:15 pm Post subject: |
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Of course they may have changed how it works since I did mine but there was a dropdown listing Europe or UK&I.
I know if full Europe fits they don't give the option anymore. Have a look at the 'reinstall' button with the card out.
Maybe GE needs to be told about Brexit _________________ Satnav:
Garmin 2599 LMT-D (Indoor test rig)
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Viofo A119 V3
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M8TJT The Other Tired Old Man
Joined: Apr 04, 2006 Posts: 10118 Location: Bexhill, South Sussex, UK
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Posted: Fri Apr 14, 2017 6:53 pm Post subject: |
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That will mean a separate map for UK and NI asit won't be included in e Europe. |
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Kremmen Pocket GPS Verifier
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Posted: Sat Apr 15, 2017 6:33 am Post subject: |
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'Click'
That'll be why Basecamp now has 2 x 2018.01 maps showing on the device internal storage when connected. _________________ Satnav:
Garmin 2599 LMT-D (Indoor test rig)
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Viofo A119 V3
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b33jay Lifetime Member
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Posted: Sat Apr 15, 2017 1:30 pm Post subject: |
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M8TJT wrote: | That will mean a separate map for UK and NI asit won't be included in e Europe. |
I've just updated my 2340 and, again, it's too large for the internal memory so there is a choice of all Europe or UK & Ireland. I selected the latter and actually get UK & Ireland plus a little of Northern France. As I don't use the 2340 for continental driving that suits me. |
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b33jay Lifetime Member
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Posted: Sat Apr 15, 2017 2:52 pm Post subject: |
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Kremmen wrote: |
I know if full Europe fits they don't give the option anymore. Have a look at the 'reinstall' button with the card out.
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I removed the SD card and re-installed current maps.......and it loaded
CN Europe NTU 2018.10 Foursquare
CN Europe NTU 2018.10 ALL South
CN Europe NTU 2018.10 ALL North
Weird.....................................
Edit: for anyone interested
When split it showed
Device - 1.43GB free of 7.02GB - card 12.3GB free of 14.4GB
Now it's all on device it shows 108MB free of 7.02GB |
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