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Guivre46 Frequent Visitor
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Darren Frequent Visitor
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Posted: Tue Feb 01, 2011 4:32 pm Post subject: |
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Well it's not really Tele Atlas's fault is it? It's drivers, who choose to ignore road signs and rely on £99 SatNav's that aren't even intended for large vehicles.
Changing the map data will make no difference if the drivers continue to use basic satnav's designed for car users and it ignores the core issue, the idiot behind the wheel. _________________ Darren Griffin |
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Guivre46 Frequent Visitor
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If I'd known you were going to be sensible, I wouldn't have been sarcastic. The whole idea is naive. _________________ Mike R [aka Wyvern46]
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Darren Frequent Visitor
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Posted: Tue Feb 01, 2011 4:42 pm Post subject: |
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Guivre46 wrote: | If I'd known you were going to be sensible, I wouldn't have been sarcastic. The whole idea is naive. |
And apologies for the narky reply, not aimed at you, it's an automatic reaction whenever that sodid rag gets a mention _________________ Darren Griffin |
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M8TJT The Other Tired Old Man
Joined: Apr 04, 2006 Posts: 10118 Location: Bexhill, South Sussex, UK
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Posted: Tue Feb 01, 2011 4:59 pm Post subject: |
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Darren wrote: | it's an automatic reaction whenever that sodid rag gets a mention | Do you read the Sun or The Guardian? The mail is a sodid good rag
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Darren Frequent Visitor
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Posted: Tue Feb 01, 2011 5:03 pm Post subject: |
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See, that's how angry the Daily Hate makes me, can't even type properly! _________________ Darren Griffin |
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M8TJT The Other Tired Old Man
Joined: Apr 04, 2006 Posts: 10118 Location: Bexhill, South Sussex, UK
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Posted: Tue Feb 01, 2011 5:07 pm Post subject: |
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And I can't do quotes propperly either (now corrected) |
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Guivre46 Frequent Visitor
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Posted: Tue Feb 01, 2011 6:24 pm Post subject: |
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Darren wrote: | Guivre46 wrote: | If I'd known you were going to be sensible, I wouldn't have been sarcastic. The whole idea is naive. |
And apologies for the narky reply, not aimed at you, it's an automatic reaction whenever that sodid rag gets a mention |
That's OK. Like to read a wide range of newspapers, and believe very little of it - Paxman perspective! Unfortunately the sat nav item was on the front page of the DM, it's in the Telegraph too, but hidden away in 'Motoring news'.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/motoring/news/8293822/Villages-to-get-protection-from-satnav-mayhem.html
I'd try larg signs saying, "Sat Nav Error. Road Unsuitable for Vehicles Over 2 tons" - and in several languages. _________________ Mike R [aka Wyvern46]
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DennisN Tired Old Man
Joined: Feb 27, 2006 Posts: 14893 Location: Keynsham
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Posted: Tue Feb 01, 2011 11:28 pm Post subject: |
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But the satnav companies have to take some of the blame. I perspired blood today when I thought I was about to become another of these reports.
Because the firm I was subbing for only pay "shortest route", I selected that for my trip from Yeovil to Bath, BA21 4AT to BA1 6SG. They were paying 40 miles (£20), my fastest route said something like 47 (£23.50), so I changed to shortest, 39 miles. At one place, in the middle of the boondocks somewhere between Yeovil and Bath, my satnav directed me into a side road which carried a sign Maximum 6ft 6ins wide. Now my Kangoo van is inside that width so in I went, hoping that the narrow entrance would widen out further in. But it didn't. Not only did it not widen, it squeezed in and then went round a bend. I just missed both sides and a bit further on, it was so narrow that the undergrowth actually flattened my wing mirror to the body. That road WAS wide enough for my vehicle and I got through with the hair on the back of my neck standing on end - it takes quite something to do that, as I've driven well over half a million miles in the last 10 years.
My point is, however, that TT really shouldn't class that road as driveable. I remember reading somewhere on this forum that TT had reduced the number of categories of roads in their maps, so that former undriveable tracks had changed to apparently normal country roads and I've seen evidence of that - I often see side roads on the map which are grass tracks or paths. I know a spot close to home where one normal road is a farmyard and another is the gated entrance to a local dog and cattery, the satnav even tells me to turn right so as not to enter the place!
_________________ Dennis
If it tastes good - it's fattening.
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Posted: Wed Feb 02, 2011 1:06 am Post subject: |
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It always makes me laugh how no story in The Hate Mail is complete without a foreigner in it. _________________ Gone fishing! |
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Oldboy Pocket GPS Moderator
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Posted: Wed Feb 02, 2011 7:41 am Post subject: |
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DennisN wrote: | My point is, however, that TT really shouldn't class that road as driveable. | Did you 'MapShare it'
_________________ Richard
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DennisN Tired Old Man
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Posted: Wed Feb 02, 2011 9:12 am Post subject: |
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Oldboy wrote: | DennisN wrote: | My point is, however, that TT really shouldn't class that road as driveable. | Did you 'MapShare it'
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A - Not likely. I was far too busy concentrating to worry about marking the location and I've no idea where I was.
B - It was driveable (because there's not much I can't drive)! _________________ Dennis
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Guivre46 Frequent Visitor
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Posted: Wed Feb 02, 2011 1:47 pm Post subject: |
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Yes, forget roadside assistance, every sat nav should come with a chain-saw. _________________ Mike R [aka Wyvern46]
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Oldboy Pocket GPS Moderator
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Posted: Wed Feb 02, 2011 3:00 pm Post subject: |
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DennisN wrote: | B - It was driveable (because there's not much I can't drive)! | Would a normal family car have made it without scratching? Or worse! _________________ Richard
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DennisN Tired Old Man
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Posted: Thu Feb 03, 2011 12:08 am Post subject: |
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My van is car-based (there's a Renault Kangoo car). If I'd had a puncture, I don't think I could have opened the door wide enough for my girth to get out and certainly wouldn't have had space for a jack.
Length 4213,
Width without mirrors 1829
Width with mirrors 2133
I reckon a Range Rover wouldn't have made it and probably not Mike's Ovlov.
Guivre46 in that lane, the sat nav would have needed a cold chisel and lump hammer for the stone walls on the bend! _________________ Dennis
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