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falkirk81 Pocket GPS Verifier
Joined: Jul 07, 2006 Posts: 1649 Location: Newcastle, England, UK
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Posted: Sun Jan 03, 2010 6:50 pm Post subject: M1 speed cameras around Nottingham to be made permanent! |
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As title suggests, after the road widening scheme is finished, the cameras will become variable speed cameras!
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/nottinghamshire/8438375.stm
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mikealder Pocket GPS Moderator
Joined: Jan 14, 2005 Posts: 19638 Location: Blackpool , Lancs
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Posted: Sun Jan 03, 2010 7:57 pm Post subject: Re: M1 speed cameras around Nottingham to be made permanent! |
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Ch Insp Andy Charlton wrote: | Between May 2008 to October 2009, 5,084 vehicles were recorded as breaking the 50 mph limit, on a stretch used by about 131,000 vehicles daily. |
Thats less than 0,008% of all the cars using the road based on their own figures, it equates to one offence every couple of hours so its hardly a major need for the cameras, what ever happened to accident black spot being used to consider a location as suitable for a camera?
Will be interesting to see if the SPECS units remain or if they are replaced with the more conventional GATSO style units employed for variable speed limits - Mike |
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DennisN Tired Old Man
Joined: Feb 27, 2006 Posts: 14901 Location: Keynsham
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Posted: Sun Jan 03, 2010 9:18 pm Post subject: |
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Just about 9 offences a day. If each was £60 a pop, that's £305,000, but take away all the foreign plates which don't pay up. How much does it cost to buy, install and maintain (including all the moving and relocating they've done up there) that many cameras? Do you reckon they covered their costs? _________________ Dennis
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aj2052 Frequent Visitor
Joined: Jul 03, 2005 Posts: 1431 Location: Leics,UK
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Posted: Mon Jan 04, 2010 12:52 am Post subject: |
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and how many were just over the speed limit? as opposed to being reckless. _________________ Moto G5s Plus, Sygic 17.4.8 |
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DennisN Tired Old Man
Joined: Feb 27, 2006 Posts: 14901 Location: Keynsham
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Posted: Mon Jan 04, 2010 1:24 am Post subject: |
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On the other hand, maybe the cameras did exactly what they were supposed to do and slowed traffic through the roadworks so that workers there didn't get killed - certainly looks that way if only 9 drivers out of 131,000 broke the 50mph speed limit (they were probably SoftypantsSoutherners not familiar with ooop 'aaaaaaaard North).
But the original question is super valid. Where's the statistics to demonstrate that, when the roadworks to IMPROVE the road are complete, it will be such a dangerous area as to necessitate speed controls? Where's the statistics to demonstrate that, when the roadworks to WIDEN the road are complete, there will be so much congestion as to require traffic flow speed control? Or maybe they realise that once they've widened that stretch, the resulting narrowing at both ends of it will cause traffic congestion which will require speed controls? Somebody, somewhere hasn't got his mind in gear! Or maybe he's the guy who's got himself lined up for the job of playing Fat Controller at a fancy console somewhere? _________________ Dennis
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aj2052 Frequent Visitor
Joined: Jul 03, 2005 Posts: 1431 Location: Leics,UK
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Posted: Mon Jan 04, 2010 2:56 am Post subject: |
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Very valid points Dennis, Perhaps you should direct them to Ch Insp Andy Charlton.
Te whole issue raises various questions.
a) Why are they widening M1, presumably for safety, then why install cameras before knowing the results of the roadworks
b) then why spend millions on roadworks when cameras are apparently doing the job. _________________ Moto G5s Plus, Sygic 17.4.8 |
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spook51 Lifetime Member
Joined: Mar 26, 2004 Posts: 548 Location: East Midlands
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Posted: Sat Jan 09, 2010 12:10 pm Post subject: Re: M1 speed cameras around Nottingham to be made permanent! |
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mikealder wrote: |
Will be interesting to see if the SPECS units remain or if they are replaced with the more conventional GATSO style units employed for variable speed limits - Mike |
There are GATSO markings painted on the carriageway adjacent to some gantries but no cameras installed on them - yet. |
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