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page3 Occasional Visitor
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Posted: Fri May 23, 2008 11:41 am Post subject: New TomTom owner - initial backup question (Mac user) |
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Just purchased a TomTom 720.
The FAQ only covers Windows.
On a Mac (Leopard) is it simply a matter of using a card reader (assuming everything comes on a removable card?) and dragging everything via Finder?
Thanks. |
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Darren Frequent Visitor
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Posted: Fri May 23, 2008 11:44 am Post subject: |
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I'm a Mac user too. Just plug in the 720, it mounts as a disk drive and the copy all the contents to a folder on your Mac.
The 720 out of the box has all it's maps and software on internal flash storage. If you later expand it using the SD slot, backup that in the same way. If your 720 has a storage card inserted it will mount as two drives.
If you subsequently have to perform a restore, it's tidier if you run the dot_clean command from a Terminal session on your Mac against the backup folder you have on your Mac to remove the . and ._ files before copying back but if you don't it doesn't affect operation. As I say not essential but keeps the files on your 720 nice'n'tidy _________________ Darren Griffin |
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Andy_P Pocket GPS Moderator
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Posted: Fri May 23, 2008 12:53 pm Post subject: |
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Just for info, quite a few people have thought there is a "special shape" SD card in their Go720's.
In fact it comes with just a plastic dummy to keep dust out of the slot, and as Darren says, everything you need is installed on the 2GB internal memory.
You can add an SD card for extra maps or to store music etc. but it isn't neccessary on these models.
On a PC bothe the card slot and the Flash memory always appear as two new drives, but on a Mac I believe the card slot only shows up when a card is actually present.
The backup scheme though is the same principle. All that you want to do is copy EVERYTHING from the TT's storage memory to somewhere safe on your computer (and preferably burn it to a CD-R or DVD-R too).
If you start a "backups" folder, you can make another backup every time before you do any upgrades or make any changes. |
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GPS_fan Pocket GPS Moderator
Joined: Jan 04, 2007 Posts: 2789 Location: Hampshire, UK
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Posted: Fri May 23, 2008 1:48 pm Post subject: Re: New TomTom owner - initial backup question (Mac user) |
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page3 wrote: | On a Mac (Leopard) is it simply a matter of using a card reader (assuming everything comes on a removable card?) and dragging everything via Finder? |
I'm not sure whether this question was specifically answered, but you don't even need a card reader.
Simply leave the SD card in your 720 and connect it to your Mac.
When it mounts, it will give you two icons on the desktop:
Internal - built-in flash memory in the 720
External - SD card
If you then create a folder on your Mac, simply drag and drop files & folders to back them up.
The important thing to remember is to keep regular backups so that you can quickly and easily restore back to how it was.
...even easier than you thought, n'est pas? _________________ Andy
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page3 Occasional Visitor
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Posted: Fri May 23, 2008 2:36 pm Post subject: |
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That's great guys - thanks |
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page3 Occasional Visitor
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Posted: Sun May 25, 2008 1:11 pm Post subject: |
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TomTom 720 arrived Saturday (speedy quick delivery from ebuyer.com) and all seems to work well.
* initial backup as easy as everyone said
* map update to 7.20 went smoothly, although I lost all my favourites which was a pain
* So far, I'm impressed although surprisingly not that much has really changed from the TomTom 3 days, certainly not with the interface.
* I keep trying to zoon the map iPhone style. This thing could really do with multi-touch and a glass screen! |
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Froggy Regular Visitor
Joined: Sep 28, 2005 Posts: 147 Location: Glasgow
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Posted: Sat Sep 06, 2008 2:19 pm Post subject: New TomTom owner - initial backup question (Mac user) |
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I have previously had no problems backing up my 720 in the manner described. However, today I added a 2GB 100x SD card and the backup failed about a quarter of the way through. On re3moving the SD card, the backup completed normally....
Anyone got any ideas why this should happen? |
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Kar98 Lifetime Member
Joined: Nov 25, 2004 Posts: 344 Location: DFW, Texas, USA
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Posted: Sat Sep 06, 2008 8:08 pm Post subject: Re: New TomTom owner - initial backup question (Mac user) |
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GPS_fan wrote: |
I'm not sure whether this question was specifically answered, but you don't even need a card reader.
Simply leave the SD card in your 720 and connect it to your Mac. |
Except it takes for-freaking-ever to transfer huge amounts of data over the USB1.1 connection that's still present in all TomTom devices and most if not all PDAs, whereas a USB2 card reader makes short work of it. |
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GPS_fan Pocket GPS Moderator
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Posted: Sat Sep 06, 2008 8:49 pm Post subject: Re: New TomTom owner - initial backup question (Mac user) |
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Point taken, but you CAN do a backup without a card reader
Are you sure that TomTom still us USB 1.1? - my 720 will backup 1.81GB in about 8 minutes...not indicative of the 11MB/s of USB 1.1 and more in line with USB 2 (480MB/s).
Obviously, a PC/Mac will require USB 2 connectivity _________________ Andy
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Kar98 Lifetime Member
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Posted: Sat Sep 06, 2008 8:56 pm Post subject: Re: New TomTom owner - initial backup question (Mac user) |
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Quite sure, that's what it says under "About this Mac" when the TT is connected. |
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Andy_P Pocket GPS Moderator
Joined: Jun 04, 2005 Posts: 19991 Location: West and Southwest London
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Posted: Sat Sep 06, 2008 9:01 pm Post subject: Re: New TomTom owner - initial backup question (Mac user) |
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Kar98 wrote: |
Except it takes for-freaking-ever to transfer huge amounts of data over the USB1.1 connection that's still present in all TomTom devices and most if not all PDAs, whereas a USB2 card reader makes short work of it. |
Are you sure about that? I thought that the more recent models ARE USB 2...
I can't find any definitive specs anywhere so far , but there are forum posts saying things like
Quote: | The laptop only has a USB1.1 connector and XP warned me that the 720 was designed for USB2 and would run slow.
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Edit: you beat me to it Andy, I was searching the web for proof...
But I'm sure that all recent TomToms use USB2.
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GPS_fan Pocket GPS Moderator
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Posted: Sat Sep 06, 2008 9:04 pm Post subject: |
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Mine says: Quote: | TomTom GO 720:
Capacity: 1.91 GB
Removable Media: Yes
Detachable Drive: Yes
BSD Name: disk2
Version: 1.00
Bus Power (mA): 500
Speed: Up to 480 Mb/sec
Manufacturer: TomTom
Mac OS 9 Drivers: No
Partition Map Type: Unknown
Product ID: 0x0001
Serial Number: M67307A07506
S.M.A.R.T. status: Not Supported
Vendor ID: 0x1390 |
So, it's connecting at 480Mb/s via USB 2 _________________ Andy
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Andy_P Pocket GPS Moderator
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Posted: Sat Sep 06, 2008 9:45 pm Post subject: |
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Can't find ANY way to do this on a PC, but my sister in law is staying tonight and she's got a Mac laptop...
Same result: Go720 connecting at 480 Mb/s |
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