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Joined: Aug 05, 2006 Posts: 407 Location: Alconbury - UK
Posted: Mon Apr 14, 2008 7:39 pm Post subject:
If I can add my two penn'orth. Last week I drove from Cambridge to Harrogate on the A1. I was using my old TomTom Go (original).
There were large roadworks at the Wetherby exit from the A1 and the slip road was closed. Diversion signs sent you about another 10 miles up the road before you could exit.
I did the same trip again this weekend, but with my new TomTom Go 720T. Using the RDS lead, my trip showed three instances of roadworks, (which have been on for months), but there was no mention of the large scale disruption at Wetherby. My TomTom still wanted to exit on the slip road that was firmly shut.
Have I wasted my money by having a T on the end?
Joined: Jan 04, 2007 Posts: 2789 Location: Hampshire, UK
Posted: Mon Apr 14, 2008 9:06 pm Post subject:
AndyVaughan wrote:
For those of us with T models we will start moaning about the quality again once the functionality is fixed!
...and there was me thinking that Victor Meldrew was just a fictional character
In the UK at least, traffic info does not work as advertised - but they still like to charge us as though it did
If only DennisN wasn't so keen to buy up the entire UK stock for his little van, they might sit up and take notice _________________ Andy
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Joined: Feb 27, 2006 Posts: 14893 Location: Keynsham
Posted: Mon Apr 14, 2008 9:16 pm Post subject:
Once I've got my free GPRS subscription, I'll be pressing them to introduce a colour for AlmostAudimetallicsilvervanmen incidents. I rather fancy pink.
EDIT I can remember pink. _________________ Dennis
I also notice that in terms of how the 'plain grey' lanes, as they show now, no longer give an DIRECTION of issue fault.
You are all exactly correct - what matter whether it be a single car accident, a fire, or black ice, that caused the crash - it is the TIME it is going to hold us up, that should matter to us.
But, er, don't none of you think it highly important we know which SIDE of the road, and thus which DIRECTION it is affected, so as to know if we will even be troubled by an incident at all if it is only in one direction, as many often are???
Joined: Jan 04, 2007 Posts: 2789 Location: Hampshire, UK
Posted: Tue Apr 15, 2008 5:49 am Post subject:
Yes, of course, direction is important - that's what we've been saying.
We want to know whether there's a delay that affects us and, if so, how long that delay is.
Length of delay being the key, not cause.
In order to know whether there is a delay, then surely the directional information is fundamental to that, not a bolt-on extra.
Delays affecting us on our side of the carriageway, ie not delays on the other carriageway which don't affect us.
Thus, directional information is fundamental to any delay information.
So fundamental, in fact, that it was probably not specifically mentioned.
Also, there was no colour scheme mentioned anywhere for delays on the opposite carriageway, I/we probably just assumed it was taken as read that we want to know about delays affecting our carriageway.
EDIT - would it not also be safe to say that if traffic info was performing reliably, we needn't worry about direction because the delays given ought to only be the ones affecting our route, not the opposite carriageway.
A clear indication the there's still some considerable way to go before traffic info is working correctly. _________________ Andy
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Joined: Aug 31, 2005 Posts: 207 Location: Hertfordshire
Posted: Tue Apr 15, 2008 6:20 am Post subject:
GPS_fan wrote:
Delays affecting us on our side of the carriageway, ie not delays on the other carriageway which don't affect us.
Dont forget the rubber neck effect. But then to expect that level of info right when they cant get some of the basics right is probably expecting a tad too much...
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Joined: Jan 04, 2007 Posts: 2789 Location: Hampshire, UK
Posted: Tue Apr 15, 2008 7:41 am Post subject:
Absolutely, and if they got the information CORRECT, then it ought to display a delay along your route caused by the rubbernecker effect.
If there's a delay on the opposite carriageway which isn't affected you journey, then it's of little consequence. However, if an incident on the opposite carriageway is causing a delay on your carriageway then, in an ideal world, it ought to show up on both carriageways.
100% accurate information - dream on _________________ Andy
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Joined: Feb 27, 2006 Posts: 14893 Location: Keynsham
Posted: Tue Apr 15, 2008 7:59 am Post subject:
I'm a naiive innocent. In all my experience with Traffic, the incidents have only ever "reported" when they affect my side. I have OFTEN seen Traffic on the opposite carriageway not affecting my side and thus the delay was NOT reported by TMC, even though it WAS marked on the map - it happened only last weekend. I don't know of any directional problem. I've always thought it was directional in so far as it only warns of Traffic en route (like cameras, only it works!). As for the arrows and/or animation? Cute, but no cigar - who cares? Like animation of the icons on my Desktop - wow! they jump up and down when my cursor passes over them. I don't really mind because they WORK. I'll put up with Bill Gates' animated icons ONLY so long as they work.
EDIT To see a directional thingy which works, navigate both directions of the M42 and you'll see delay southbound for the roadworks, none northbound for no roadworks (if it hasn't changed since the weekend). _________________ Dennis
Joined: Jan 04, 2007 Posts: 2789 Location: Hampshire, UK
Posted: Tue Apr 15, 2008 8:18 am Post subject:
Jakers! It's almost as though people are expecting traffic info to work as the wonderful utility its advertised as.
This reminds me of a slogan I once saw:
"The impossible we do at once, miracles take a little longer" _________________ Andy
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