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Darren Frequent Visitor
Joined: 11/07/2002 14:36:40 Posts: 23848 Location: Hampshire, UK
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Posted: Sun Feb 10, 2008 4:57 pm Post subject: |
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It's coming, both mapping providers have announced or launched the datasets now so it'll filter through in due course.
The issue is as ever cost, at the outset I'd expect it to be a premium product aimed at commercial users/solutions. The licence fee will cost more to manufacturers and they will need to be persuaded that the greater part of their user-base desires this data as standard if we are to see it in mainstream products.
Personally I think it'll be a while before that happens. _________________ Darren Griffin |
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FrequentFlyer Lifetime Member
Joined: Jun 12, 2006 Posts: 962 Location: London
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Posted: Sun Feb 10, 2008 5:50 pm Post subject: |
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PeterB wrote: |
Proper indication of low bridges, narrow bridges and narrow lanes is LONG overdue.
Apart from the various specialist sites with data; surely this would be a major sellling point for TomTom, Navman etc. not just for the HGV users but for mobile homes, horse boxes etc.
How many of us are fed up of being directed down narrow country lanes, some with virtually no passing places??? My worst experiences, this year have been in Cornwall and Kent.
OK, large vehicle drivers should take more care BUT we now have the technology but NOT the sophisticated application to meet all the customer needs!!!! |
"Fed up being directed down narrow country lanes" ??? So, what did you do before satnav...look at a map ?...and then what ? |
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crazyfingers Regular Visitor
Joined: Aug 08, 2004 Posts: 107 Location: Massachusetts, USA
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Posted: Sun Feb 10, 2008 6:10 pm Post subject: |
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Darren wrote: | It's coming, both mapping providers have announced or launched the datasets now so it'll filter through in due course.
The issue is as ever cost, at the outset I'd expect it to be a premium product aimed at commercial users/solutions. The licence fee will cost more to manufacturers and they will need to be persuaded that the greater part of their user-base desires this data as standard if we are to see it in mainstream products.
Personally I think it'll be a while before that happens. |
I agree that it will be a while. Looking at the current Nuvi line for example, the vast majority offer very little in the way of modifying how routes are calculated or in customizing routes. Garmin clearly believes that most of their customers do not want extra route preference features. _________________ Garmin Nuvi 750 w/City Nav 10 N. America & 08 Europe
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chrissuk2000 Occasional Visitor
Joined: Aug 01, 2006 Posts: 12
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Posted: Mon Feb 11, 2008 1:10 am Post subject: Sat-navs blamed once again |
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Whilst I tend to agree with most of the comments regarding using common sense, I am still bothered about the attitudes of the digital mapping orgs.
I have lived at my current address for 34 years, suffice to say therefore that I do know the area fairly well - I am nearly a senior citizen.
All mapping systems, satnav, AA, RAC, Autoroute et al, show a local bridleway as a road connecting to the one that I live in. The bridleway is a mud track and there is a 1 metre step to my road. There have been numerous attempts by vehicle to get through without success, the latest being two fully loaded cement trucks. Took six hours to get them out and it made the local press (I called them in).
Through our local Parish Council of which I am a member, we have finally got the local Highways dept to place a line of bollards across the end of the path, so hopefully, problem solved.
What annoys me is that I have reported this to NavteQ and Teleatlas twice and have been told that I am incorrect and that their mapping data is correct.
What is the point of local knowledge. Following the debacle with the cement lorries, the press contacted one of the mapping orgs who were going to speak to me about it, but nothing ever happened.
Fortunately, with the latest software, I have updated my own TomTom510 and shared the info so when I leave home, my system no longer suggests that "in 200 yards turn left". |
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Darren Frequent Visitor
Joined: 11/07/2002 14:36:40 Posts: 23848 Location: Hampshire, UK
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Posted: Mon Feb 11, 2008 8:09 am Post subject: Re: Sat-navs blamed once again |
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chrissuk2000 wrote: | What annoys me is that I have reported this to NavteQ and Teleatlas twice and have been told that I am incorrect and that their mapping data is correct. |
To whom did you make these reports? There normal reporting facility would not provide such feedback? _________________ Darren Griffin |
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chrissuk2000 Occasional Visitor
Joined: Aug 01, 2006 Posts: 12
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Posted: Mon Feb 11, 2008 12:26 pm Post subject: Sat-navs blamed once again |
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Darren,
Have forwarded the only response I still have on file from NavTeq.
"Our Resolution Outcome is: No Change Necessary - Database Reflects Reality
Details: The NAVTEQ database has been checked for geometry and coding. The NAVTEQ database was found to be correct; all is present as according to reality."
You only have to cross check it from something like Google Earth to see this is not the case.
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Darren Frequent Visitor
Joined: 11/07/2002 14:36:40 Posts: 23848 Location: Hampshire, UK
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Posted: Mon Feb 11, 2008 12:52 pm Post subject: |
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Thanks, email received. I will put this your post and their response to Navteq directly and also ask TeleAtlas for a comment. If you could email me the location and or PostCode so I can check the current status before I do so it would be appreciated. _________________ Darren Griffin |
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MaFt Pocket GPS Staff
Joined: Aug 31, 2005 Posts: 15156 Location: Bradford, West Yorkshire
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Posted: Mon Feb 11, 2008 1:27 pm Post subject: |
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we had a short story the other day in our local paper of 'satnav causes road chaos' where a truck tried getting around a stupidly tight corner and blocked it all...
for a change though they actually quoted the road safety guy as saying if his sat nav was up to date it wouldn't happen as the digital maps were updated a number of years ago and he no longer gets routed that way
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GPS_fan Pocket GPS Moderator
Joined: Jan 04, 2007 Posts: 2789 Location: Hampshire, UK
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Posted: Mon Feb 11, 2008 3:58 pm Post subject: |
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Long before satellites and GPS, there was a saying about poor workmen blaming their tools.
Surely, this is just another blatant example of 'tools' being blamed for drivers' inadequacies. _________________ Andy
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FrequentFlyer Lifetime Member
Joined: Jun 12, 2006 Posts: 962 Location: London
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batties Lifetime Member
Joined: Jul 07, 2006 Posts: 111
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Posted: Tue Feb 12, 2008 12:23 pm Post subject: |
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Just connected my sat nav to TomTom Home 2 version and have noticed someone has kindly uploaded all low bridges as FREE POI's.
Check it out! |
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Darren Frequent Visitor
Joined: 11/07/2002 14:36:40 Posts: 23848 Location: Hampshire, UK
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Posted: Tue Feb 12, 2008 12:26 pm Post subject: |
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What you mean is someone has breached copyright on someone else's work and shared it _________________ Darren Griffin |
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batties Lifetime Member
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Posted: Tue Feb 12, 2008 12:28 pm Post subject: |
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If they have breached copyright perhaps TomTom could and should ban this type of practice. Why do they allow copyrighted work to be shared? |
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MaFt Pocket GPS Staff
Joined: Aug 31, 2005 Posts: 15156 Location: Bradford, West Yorkshire
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Posted: Tue Feb 12, 2008 12:59 pm Post subject: |
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batties wrote: | Why do they allow copyrighted work to be shared? |
ill-thought out plans and ideas?!
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AceCRO Occasional Visitor
Joined: Mar 23, 2006 Posts: 8
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Posted: Thu Feb 14, 2008 11:15 am Post subject: Re: Sat-navs blamed once again |
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Blaming sat-nav for the failings of drivers seems to be the norm these days.
Yep !! Here we go again.
How long do you think before the usual knee jerk reaction from the government and ban use of SatNavs?
On a completely different note, wasn't it gratifying to see all those people who have continuously been having a go at the 4x4 drivers found out that they have to pay £25 congestion charge as well because they didn't realise their people carriers were more polluting than the 4x4s ? |
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