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PaulB2005 Pocket GPS Moderator
Joined: Jan 04, 2006 Posts: 9323 Location: Durham, UK
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Posted: Sat Nov 24, 2007 7:21 pm Post subject: |
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Quote: | Would emphasise you get full screen shots of the item auction before it disappears from eBay. |
I've grabbed a full set of screen shots. eclaire PM or email me if you want them. |
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eclaire Lifetime Member
Joined: Oct 11, 2007 Posts: 31
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Posted: Sat Nov 24, 2007 7:27 pm Post subject: |
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thanks for that Paul!!
Tried to register it as a dispute with ebay but apparantly i have to wait for 10 days from auction close, so that will be the 26th
claire:-} |
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Pufin Occasional Visitor
Joined: Mar 01, 2006 Posts: 47 Location: Walsall, West Midlands, U.K.
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Posted: Sun Nov 25, 2007 2:52 pm Post subject: |
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Which means others will be dupped as well, as soon as a winner comes up email them at least try to stop any cash from being transfered. _________________ Want to get lost, forget your Tomtom next time you go out?
Or should that be Take your TomTom with you!
Two TomTom 500's
App 7.161 GPS v1.21 Boot 4.8600 Map Western_Europe_1GB v710.1561
Installed on 2gig sd cards. |
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gardenshed Frequent Visitor
Joined: Jul 05, 2007 Posts: 466
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Posted: Sun Nov 25, 2007 6:01 pm Post subject: |
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get his address and go around and explain what a **** he has been and get a refund in cash or kind |
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eclaire Lifetime Member
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Posted: Sun Nov 25, 2007 6:06 pm Post subject: |
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Thats's what my OH had in mind....!!
4 negs, including mine, all saying the same thing.
Not heard from the seller, will be filing it as a dispute with ebay tommorow.
now i am looking out for real bargain 910's (as opposed to rip offs) but i might wait till after christmas as they will probably be cheaper then
claire:-} |
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mikealder Pocket GPS Moderator
Joined: Jan 14, 2005 Posts: 19638 Location: Blackpool , Lancs
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Posted: Sun Nov 25, 2007 6:17 pm Post subject: |
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The strange thing is that the seller has a history of retailing jeans and underwear, not SatNavs - perhaps this is a case of stolen identity or a partner using the account, I would try again to request e-bay intervene early with this case (and the other similar ones listed) as they have a duty of care to their customers be them sellers or buyers - the seven day rule is a smoke screen IMHO.
I see the seller has no more goods for sale, a shame really as it would have been nice to post some difficult questions against the sale, followed by asking e-bay why the questions were not displayed.
As always if something looks to good to be true it often is, although I would say the advert was deliberately misleading - Mike |
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lola Lifetime Member
Joined: Aug 31, 2006 Posts: 146
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Posted: Tue Nov 27, 2007 5:44 pm Post subject: |
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Dont panic eclaire - Ebay have honoured bad deals twice for me now. The advert is completely misleading so you should be fine.
Unfortunately Ebay is full of these folk so I have long since stopped dealing with Ebay. |
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eclaire Lifetime Member
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Posted: Tue Nov 27, 2007 6:49 pm Post subject: |
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Tried to file a dispute with ebay today but that just takes you back to paypal and we have already filed a dispute/claim with them so now its just wait and see.
There are now 6 negatives that all say the same - wrong product in a 910 box- so that should go in our favour and hopefully everyone will get their money back from the seller or from paypal.
apparantly the seller has till the 4th december to respond with what she is going to do, otherwise paypal will find in our favour. i presume that means we will get the money back.
claire:-} |
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shaun43uk Lifetime Member
Joined: Mar 14, 2007 Posts: 68 Location: Peterborough
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eclaire Lifetime Member
Joined: Oct 11, 2007 Posts: 31
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Posted: Wed Nov 28, 2007 5:47 pm Post subject: |
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thanks - will post once all is resolved. have sent the whole box and contents back to the seller today as requested by paypal
claire:-} |
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bdchme Lifetime Member
Joined: Oct 12, 2007 Posts: 18
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Posted: Thu Nov 29, 2007 10:38 pm Post subject: |
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Unfortunately, as i have found out to my cost, not.
Paypal can only recover the money if he either has a) paypal funds in his account or b) a valid credit card.
If he has withdrawn funds to his bank, paypal cannot recover the money from his balance. If he has cancelled the credit card linked to his paypal account then they cannot recover the funds that way either,
I'm afraid when that happens, paypal simply leave the seller with a negative account balance, but with no means to recover tha balance, you will get nothing. He isnt covered by their paypal protection either.
If you want to see the REAL paypal, take a look at www.paypalsucks.com |
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technik Lifetime Member
Joined: Mar 18, 2004 Posts: 789 Location: Midlands UK
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vibeone Lifetime Member
Joined: Mar 08, 2006 Posts: 128
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Posted: Thu Nov 29, 2007 11:57 pm Post subject: |
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Wow - there is a lot of utter utter rubbish being said in this thread.
Firstly - do NOT contact your credit card company yet - and only do so as a last resort. Paypal are bad with this - they demand you use their methods to get money back. Doing a chargeback will just make them close your account - and you will lose everything.
Secondly, a paypal dispute covers ebay as well (hence why you are redirected to paypal - don't worry about this). However, you could post details on the forums linked above - more publicity the better.
Thirdly, in response to mike who said "I see the seller has no more goods for sale, a shame really as it would have been nice to post some difficult questions against the sale, followed by asking e-bay why the questions were not displayed. " - The seller can choose whether to display each questions asked, or not. Its not demanded of sellers - its their choice. poor - isn't it
Finally, you should get some money back. Regardless of whether he has a credit card on file, or money in his account - I know this because I've been in this situation about a year ago. In my case the first £50 was covered by paypal - regardless of anything else, you should get this, and in fact I believe it has gone up so you may well receive more or the majority back now. I was only owed about £60 back for a badly described item - so I lived with the lost tenner.
Hope this helps.
EDIT: To clarify my post, rather than just spout garbage which could leave eclaire in a worse position, I have found a quote from paypal.
Quote: | Purchase protection on eBay — PayPal Buyer Protection.
When you’re shopping on eBay, look for items that are covered by PayPal Buyer Protection.
With it, you get free protection of up to £500.00 GBP on your purchases. To determine if your item is eligible, look for PayPal Buyer Protection in the Seller Information box on the View Item page. When your transaction isn’t covered by PayPal Buyer Protection, you may still be covered by our Buyer Complaint Policy.
To review guidelines for filing a claim and for specific terms and conditions, please review the PayPal Buyer Protection Policy and Buyer Complaint Policy in our User Agreement. |
So basically, if the item had paypal buyer protection, you are covered up to £500 - and if it didn't - you will be covered up to £150 - if they find in your favour (which lets face it they should).
So to repeat: technik/bdchme is very very wrong, and to be honest I'm pretty annoyed - because not only is your advice garbage, but if followed could see buyers in a lot bigger mess than they are at present. If you aren't gonna check your facts, or at least make sure they half resemble the truth - don't bother saying anything!
Wait it out with paypal, and never ever do a chargeback on them except as a last last last possible resort. Hope it works out OK for you eclaire.
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https://www.paypal.com/uk/cgi-bin/webscr?cmd=_protections-buyer-outside
Quote: | The majority of eBay transactions are completed quickly and smoothly, but if you don't receive your item or it arrives significantly not as described, then your purchase is protected up to £150. If you buy from a PayPal Verified seller with over 50 feedback (at least 98% positive) then your purchase is protected up to £500. |
Last edited by vibeone on Fri Nov 30, 2007 12:12 am; edited 2 times in total |
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mikealder Pocket GPS Moderator
Joined: Jan 14, 2005 Posts: 19638 Location: Blackpool , Lancs
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Posted: Fri Nov 30, 2007 12:11 am Post subject: |
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vibeone wrote: | Thirdly, in response to mike who said "I see the seller has no more goods for sale, a shame really as it would have been nice to post some difficult questions against the sale, followed by asking e-bay why the questions were not displayed. " - The seller can choose whether to display each questions asked, or not. Its not demanded of sellers - its their choice. | Very true, but the questions are still logged on the site when submitted and can be pulled back when dispute occurs - as for the please keep the language down as this is a forum with certain rules - Mike |
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vibeone Lifetime Member
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Posted: Fri Nov 30, 2007 12:13 am Post subject: |
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sorry mike - re-edited my post.
Just pretty annoyed at the misinformation being posted in this thread that could harm other posters! |
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