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welsey Occasional Visitor
Joined: May 28, 2005 Posts: 8
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Posted: Thu Jul 28, 2005 5:32 pm Post subject: POI website |
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hello everybody :D i found this website http://www.poidownload.co.uk/ i have dloaded a few POI's the file arrives as .asc can this work direct in the navman 510 i did convert it to a .ov2 and then to a .csv on all occasions navman was unable to read the file. i know the ov2 is for tom tom.
Any help would be very thank full
Welsey :D |
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Tim Buxton Pocket GPS Moderator
Joined: 14/09/2002 20:56:18 Posts: 5231 Location: Surrey, United Kingdom
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Posted: Thu Jul 28, 2005 7:01 pm Post subject: |
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The Navman POIEditor can read .asc files if they follow the
Long, Lat, "Name" format.
You may well have to edit the top line as per .csv files and you'll still have to use Notepad to do it. _________________ Tim |
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welsey Occasional Visitor
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Posted: Mon Aug 01, 2005 7:41 pm Post subject: |
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This is how the file looks.
WP04 54.39482 -0.70487 10 Abbots House Farm - 01947 896270 0 1 WP04 53.00901 -4.3883 10 Aberafon Camping - 01286 660295 0 1
Do i have to delete some columns ?or name them like you have said Long, Lat, "Name" format ? sorry not sure what to do here
thanks
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Tim Buxton Pocket GPS Moderator
Joined: 14/09/2002 20:56:18 Posts: 5231 Location: Surrey, United Kingdom
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Posted: Mon Aug 01, 2005 7:58 pm Post subject: |
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Yes, you'll have to edit them, I think. The Navman POIEditor needs to be presented with the information in Long, Lat, "Name" so your file would need editing to read something like:-
-0.70487, 54.39482, "Abbots House Farm"
-4.3883, 53.00901, "Aberafon Camping "
etc.
You need to lose the WP04 from the beginning, the 10 from the middle and the 0 1 from the end. You could possibly add the telephone number inside the quote marks but this would make for a very long name. _________________ Tim |
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Tim Buxton Pocket GPS Moderator
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Posted: Mon Aug 01, 2005 8:17 pm Post subject: |
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Right, after a quick experiment, you'll be pleased to know that conversion from this version of .asc to .csv is really easy. First of all, get Oldie's POIConverter programme from here.
Install it to its default directory and run it.
Navigate to your .asc file and open that file.
Save the file as an Autoroute Pushpin .csv file.
Open the resultant .csv file using Notepad.
Add a ; to the beginning of the top line (Long, Lat, "Name", "".
Save the file.
Use Navman POIEditor to export the final .csv file to your device. _________________ Tim |
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RonS Occasional Visitor
Joined: Jun 17, 2005 Posts: 26
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Posted: Wed Aug 03, 2005 9:43 am Post subject: |
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Has anyone any ideas that would help me load large POI files to my iCN510?
I can load the GATSO files and many others with no problem, but when I try to load large files (above 1 MB) like the POISoft postcode files, the POI Editor just appears to hang, or run very, very slowly. There is ample space on my SD card, which is a Lexar 32x 256 MB type that works quite satisfactorily in my digital camera and appears to be OK in the iCN510.
I have aked for help from both Navman and POISoft and neither have been able to solve the problem. The Navman tech support doesn't seem able to read beyond the first lines of any explanation! |
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Synth Regular Visitor
Joined: May 14, 2005 Posts: 78 Location: Perth, WA, Australia
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Posted: Fri Aug 05, 2005 12:09 am Post subject: |
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I had the same thing when loading the postcode data from POIsoft. I left it running overnight; it seems to take a long time to process before uploading to the 510. |
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RonS Occasional Visitor
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Posted: Fri Aug 05, 2005 8:17 pm Post subject: |
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At last Navman tech support came up with the answer. It seems that SmartST can't cope with file that contain more than 65000 lines - the same limit as Excel worksheets. If the database files are split into smaller files within this size limit, then they can be converted from .csv format and saved to the iCN510 in MYPOI. The conversion is still a very, very slow process.
Ron |
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icsys Frequent Visitor
Joined: Feb 20, 2004 Posts: 1154 Location: South Lancashire, UK
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Posted: Fri Aug 05, 2005 9:39 pm Post subject: |
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As the PoiSoft postcode overlays are split into ten regions, how many lines do each of them contain? I know they are 4MB in size each.
PoiSoft claim "All of our customers that have purchased the postcode software have been 100% happy" suggesting that they either work with Navman SmartSTv3 or no one using Navman has complained that they dont. _________________ Ian.
iPAQ 2210 | Navman 4100 BT Receiver
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RonS Occasional Visitor
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Posted: Sun Aug 07, 2005 9:51 am Post subject: |
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The total number of lines in one Postcode file (South Central) is just over 173,000. So far I have divided this .csv file into 4 more or less equal .csv files by cutting & pasting using Notepad and judging the portion sizes by eye using the righthand scrollbar as a guide. For safety, make a copy of the original file and save it with 'read-only' attribute before messing around.
The main problem then is searching through all the POI files in the Navman to find the postcode you want - this can be quite tedious. To make it a bit easier I am trying to sort the postcodes into more recognisable groupings using Excel, but have someway to go yet. Does anyone have a brighter idea?
BTW, Steve at POISoft is very helpfull and approachable.
Ron |
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AndyT328 Occasional Visitor
Joined: Dec 02, 2004 Posts: 22
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Posted: Sun Aug 07, 2005 11:20 am Post subject: |
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HELP!!!
Can someone please give a step by step guide to load these postcodes as I also have problems loading all these postcodes ,my system seems to hangs when the pc is transferring the postcodes to my navman.
POI Options settings eg. Visual alert?. audio alert?,Icon file ? so on and so on....
Synth,Did you actually leave your navman loading overnight for the FULL area postcode in one hit?or did you get ALL areas loaded?
RonS, how many POI can the navman 510 take?
Enough to take these postcode areas in sections?
Just need clarification on these points
Many Many Thanks
AndyT |
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Simon1 Frequent Visitor
Joined: Aug 07, 2004 Posts: 388 Location: Surrey, UK
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Posted: Sun Aug 07, 2005 4:45 pm Post subject: |
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RonS wrote: | The main problem then is searching through all the POI files in the Navman to find the postcode you want - this can be quite tedious. To make it a bit easier I am trying to sort the postcodes into more recognisable groupings using Excel, but have someway to go yet. Does anyone have a brighter idea?Ron |
How do you enter the postcode you want when the software is downloaded? Do you not enter it in the postcode search option but put in the whole thing instead of the first five letters? |
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RonS Occasional Visitor
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Posted: Mon Aug 08, 2005 4:26 pm Post subject: |
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AndyT - I think the only limit is the size of your SD card and how many categories you have the patience to scroll through.
Simon1 - To find a postcode (say WD123QT) in the postcode file Anglia that has been divided into 4 parts, you go to Main Menu - Destination - Points of Interest - Category: My POI - Type: Anglia1 - Page - WD123QT. Note, enter the postcode without a space. If the postcode is not in Anglia1, then go to Anglia2, or Anglia3, or, etc.,
One difficulty I have found is that the .csv file names are not very accurate geographically. For example, WD postcodes belong to Watford, Herts., and they are located in the file Anglia.csv.
I am afraid that I find this postcode overlay system very inconvenient and shall probably not use it after all.
Ron |
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whitty1608 Occasional Visitor
Joined: Aug 08, 2005 Posts: 2
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Posted: Mon Aug 08, 2005 5:36 pm Post subject: Re: POI website |
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welsey wrote: | hello everybody :D i found this website http://www.poidownload.co.uk/ i have dloaded a few POI's the file arrives as .asc can this work direct in the navman 510 i did convert it to a .ov2 and then to a .csv on all occasions navman was unable to read the file. i know the ov2 is for tom tom.
Any help would be very thank full
Welsey :D |
Found another web site listed on diffrent forum with POI's allready converted for down loading to Navman www.getoutguide.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/poidownloads/
Hope you find it usefull |
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Oldboy Pocket GPS Moderator
Joined: Dec 08, 2004 Posts: 10643 Location: Suffolk, UK
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Posted: Mon Aug 08, 2005 7:13 pm Post subject: |
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RonS wrote: | I am afraid that I find this postcode overlay system very inconvenient and shall probably not use it after all. |
RonS - Did you get my PM? _________________ Richard
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