Removal of in-correct camera

Paul80 · Regular Visitor Joined: Aug 25, 2005 Posts: 246

Hi Guys

For manymonths I have tried to have removed a local camera that has not been used for over a year.

MOBILE:18391@70, Heading:15, Single Direction

It was removed from the database once but was then put back on.

Anyone know why this is

Its on the A249 near the new bridge onto the Isle of Sheppey Kent.

The lay-by it used to be in was removed in all the new road works that went on in building the new bridge.

The Camera was re-sited and the new possition is in the Database as well.

Why does it keep being put back on the database.

Paul

scarymonkey · Posted: Fri Jun 20, 2008 7:21 am Post subject:

I guessing because someone keeps reporting its use.

Are you 100% sure it is no longer in use and not just they have not used it when you are not around?
Around here many of the mobile locations are rarely used but these are the ones most likely to bite as you become complacent and not as observant of your speed.

GPS_fan · Posted: Fri Jun 20, 2008 7:28 am Post subject:

The submission notes say:

M8TJT · Posted: Fri Jun 20, 2008 8:27 am Post subject:

There is another possibility in that the cam MOBILE:28276@70, Heading:190, Reversible about a mile further south is the 're-sited' location, and the 'renewal' of MOBILE:18391@70, Heading:15, Single Direction is a bad mis-hit for that one.

The OP also says that the layby in which MOBILE:18391@70, Heading:15, Single Direction was located has now gone. Seems like a new verification of these sites is desirable (sorry, too far away).

It also seems that both cams need moving to carriage way centre and doubling up for TT.

Paul80 · Regular Visitor Joined: Aug 25, 2005 Posts: 246

Yep site is no longer there, it was done away with during the build of the new road for the new bridge.

The new site for the mobile camera is already recorded before the old site. New position is MOBILE:28276@70, Heading:190

Paul

GPS_fan · Posted: Fri Jun 20, 2008 9:08 am Post subject:

When you attempted to have the camera removed, did you include a full explanation in the comments box?

Perhaps an abbreviated comment like "camera no longer at this location" wouldn't stop a new submission being added to the database, but if you were to include the full description here, then MaFt would know that a new request to have that camera added would be erroneous since it would have been built over.

Without knowing exactly what has been submitted by yourself and others, it's not possible to say why this camera has made it's way back - perhaps MaFt could comment.
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Paul80 · Regular Visitor Joined: Aug 25, 2005 Posts: 246

Yes full explanation given every time.

MOBILE:18391@70, Heading:15, Single Direction

Latitude: 51.38506654725612 Longitude: 0.7426071166992187

United Kingdom

Note

Camera Position no longer used
Position removed when new road was built for the new bridge

MaFt · Posted: Fri Jun 20, 2008 2:54 pm Post subject: Re: Removal of in-correct camera

Paul80 · Regular Visitor Joined: Aug 25, 2005 Posts: 246

I don't know how. There is no were for the van to park since the new road was built. which is why there is a new position for the camera already listed.

Andy_P · Posted: Fri Jun 20, 2008 6:17 pm Post subject:

It doesn't have to have been a van, it could have been a single copper on foot, or on a bike.

They are pretty good at parking their vans illegally/dangerously too.

Paul80 · Regular Visitor Joined: Aug 25, 2005 Posts: 246

Ok I will give up trying to get the error corrected then.

MaFt · Posted: Sat Jun 21, 2008 12:54 am Post subject:

look at it from my point of view. i don't know this area in any way shape or form so i can ONLY go off the comments made by submitters.

so at present i have one person saying it has been seen again and another saying it should be removed.

until there have been further submissions either way then the best bet is to leave it in place for now. rather have people being warned than not.

hope that makes sense!

MaFt

Paul80 · Regular Visitor Joined: Aug 25, 2005 Posts: 246

I think I have now sussed what the problem is.

Firstly

I drive over the sheppey bridge 5 or 6 times a day every day of the week and I was also the one who first posted the position of this speed camera.

Just been over the bridge again tonight with my TomTom on noting the exact positions of the cameras.

What I noticed was that what I thought was the camera in the new position was actualy a camera on the other side of the road.

I have now posted notification using the web site of the actual position of the new camera.

Hopefully the in corrrect position will now be removed.

Just to note

The old position is now about 100 yards up the new bridge

Beleive me even plod or the Kent Safety Camera Partnership would not stop on the bridge.

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