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TomTom thinks personal sat nav still has legs


Article by: Darren Griffin
Date: 5 May 2016

pocketgpsworld.com
TomTom announced the launch of new personal navigation devices on Tuesday. The new 'Start' models are available in three variants, 42 (4.3" screen), 52 (5" screen) and 62 (6" screen) and all share an integrated reversible mount.

Features include Advanced Lane Guidance, Average Speed limit data and TomTom's 'Lifetime Maps'.

Clearly there is still a market for these devices but the writing must surely be on the wall. More and more of us use our smartphones for navigation and, aside from the larger screens that are available are there any compelling reasons to invest in a dedicated nav device nowadays?

Source: www.tomtom.com



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Posted by marksfish on Thu May 05, 2016 7:58 pm Reply with quote

I prefer a standalone unit and don't want to use my phone, but cannot go back to TomTom while I can't use my own POI's properly.

Mark


Garmin Drivesmart 51 LMT-D Europe

 
Posted by larry17 on Thu May 05, 2016 9:49 pm Reply with quote

I agree Marksfish, not being able to use my own POIs is a why I am not replacing my present older Tomtom! They really do need to take a second look at this policy. It's costing them a lot of sales, IMO.


 
Posted by M8TJT on Fri May 06, 2016 7:20 am Reply with quote

I would imagine that the POI situation for TT is not costing them 'lots of sales', but a loss of a tiny fraction of their sales and quite a saving on Customer Support.


 
Posted by toots347 on Fri May 06, 2016 7:37 am Reply with quote

I still use mine as the inbuilt Nav unit in my Opel is not actually very good. Looks good but has no traffic, can't be updated, except at vast cost, has useless traffic info and picks the oddest routes you can imagine. Yes, my TT isn't perfect but it's the dog's whatsits compared to the Opel thing!


 
Posted by sussamb on Fri May 06, 2016 7:49 am Reply with quote

Those of us who do use stand alone satnavs probably will continue to do so for some time yet. My phone just doesn't cut it for the way I use my satnav, and like others I find that built in devices are expensive to update etc etc. What would be ideal would be a slot in my car into which I could simply fit a stand alone device, but can't see that being introduced by the relevant manufacturers.


Where there's a will ... there's a way.

 
Posted by Bratters on Fri May 06, 2016 7:56 am Reply with quote

If I just want to go from A to B my smart phone is fine, but mostly I am using custom routes for which my Phone is impossible, but my Zumo 390 is great.


 
Posted by xtraseller on Fri May 06, 2016 8:09 am Reply with quote

Phones apps while now have all (or most) of the features these days, large displays and are faster than dedicated units because of better processes still don't work well for me

Mainly because everything from set-up to onscreen or voice control is more awkward than a good dedicated

For some of us it will be some time yet before the switch - as I will wait until smartphone to incar screen works well as I think that will provide the best overall solution

So good to see TT and Garmin releasing new units this month - but would like to see some new high end TTs with some extra features and slicker build, faster processors


TomTom Go Live 6100, 600
Garmin DriveLux 50, D-Smart 70, NuviCam, 3598, 2699, 2798
Mio Navman 695
Nexus 6p, Apple iPhone 6sPlus and Microsoft Lumia 950xl running TomTom, Garmin, CoPilot, Navigon, Sygic, Here Drive, Google, Waze, MS Maps

 
Posted by Skumba on Fri May 06, 2016 8:27 am Reply with quote

My C4 Picasso Satnav, which is the same as used in all other Peugeot/Citroen vehicles is an absolute nightmare to operate, and it regularly "disagrees" with my Go Live 1005 Camper (bought recently for the SD card to allow Full European Maps). I have followed it to test it when the disagreements arise a few times, and to be fair it has not been too far off course.
But..!! Programming is an absolute nightmare, updating it annually would pay for a new hand-held every year, and the traffic data is derived from Coyote, which is a diamond in France, working similar to Waze where it takes information directly from drivers and is updated instantly regarding road incidents (stopped vehicles etc.) but here in the UK it is less use than a chocolate teapot.
Similarly, my Renault Zoe has TomTom on board. Well, yes, OK... But Renault has fiddled with it, reducing its efficiency, and once again an annual set of maps and traffic data will pay for a top-end TotmTom at least every second year.
Hand-held SatNav is here to stay until Motor manufacturers stop thinking they know better than TT or Garmin etc.
It really is crazy being forced to run two Satnav systems side by side but I HATE the unfriendly attitude of my built in Satnav - even the "TomTom" in my Renault.


IPAQ H2210 1993.... GO LIVE 1005 Europe 2011, 1005 Camper 2015, 5200 WFi 2016 and TT still can't get metric speed limit info right in the UK. 70mph is NOT 115kmh. It is 113 as my old IPAQ knew so well!

 
Posted by SpikeUK on Fri May 06, 2016 8:33 am Reply with quote

I'll be sticking with my 930, because I like the remote control. I like to be able to alter the volume without taking my eyes off the road.


Tomtom 930 - excellent
Tomtom 700 - retired

 
Posted by xtraseller on Fri May 06, 2016 8:57 am Reply with quote

Skumba Wrote:
My C4 Picasso Satnav, which is the same as used in all other Peugeot/Citroen vehicles is an absolute nightmare to operate, and it regularly "disagrees" with my Go Live 1005 Camper (bought recently for the SD card to allow Full European Maps). I have followed it to test it when the disagreements arise a few times, and to be fair it has not been too far off course.
But..!! Programming is an absolute nightmare, updating it annually would pay for a new hand-held every year, and the traffic data is derived from Coyote, which is a diamond in France, working similar to Waze where it takes information directly from drivers and is updated instantly regarding road incidents (stopped vehicles etc.) but here in the UK it is less use than a chocolate teapot.
Similarly, my Renault Zoe has TomTom on board. Well, yes, OK... But Renault has fiddled with it, reducing its efficiency, and once again an annual set of maps and traffic data will pay for a top-end TotmTom at least every second year.
Hand-held SatNav is here to stay until Motor manufacturers stop thinking they know better than TT or Garmin etc.
It really is crazy being forced to run two Satnav systems side by side but I HATE the unfriendly attitude of my built in Satnav - even the "TomTom" in my Renault.


Exactly. Thats why something - once more widespread - like Apple CarPlay and Android Auto with will take control back to the software provider, with the car just providing the screen, touch and sound hardware


TomTom Go Live 6100, 600
Garmin DriveLux 50, D-Smart 70, NuviCam, 3598, 2699, 2798
Mio Navman 695
Nexus 6p, Apple iPhone 6sPlus and Microsoft Lumia 950xl running TomTom, Garmin, CoPilot, Navigon, Sygic, Here Drive, Google, Waze, MS Maps

 
Posted by Kar98 on Fri May 06, 2016 11:42 am Reply with quote

Both our cars, my Scion tC and the wife's Hyundai Veloster, have six inch nav screens in the center of the dash. Hers is factory, mine is an aftermarket unit from Pioneer, with NavNGo. We both have phones with 5 inch screens. If we really wanted to use a TomTom PND, we could grab the the 710 from the bookshelf. Although it would probably take a week to find itself. But it's from when TomTom had an actual peak in sight -never actually did reach it- and it's been downhill for their products ever since.


 
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