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North Yorkshire to introduce mobile speed camera vans


Article by: Darren Griffin
Date: 15 Apr 2010

pocketgpsworld.comNorth Yorkshire's Road Safety Partnership plans to introduce mobile speed camera vans which will operate at 28 sites across the region.

North Yorks and Durham had chosen not to operate mobile speed cameras (the only two not to) but following Durham's change of mind North Yorks have chosen to jump in as well.

This will be seen as yet another cynical tax on the already overburdened motorist. Time and time again we see the blunt tool of enforcement by financial penalty chosen instead of other options.

With 1 in 3 motorists convinced that all three main political parties are anti-motorist that leaves over 10 million votes up for grabs.

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Posted by Holdfast on Fri Apr 16, 2010 7:36 am Reply with quote

Given that Durham is "strapped" for cash it was just a matter of time before they introduced the cameras.


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Posted by K13ehr on Fri Apr 16, 2010 7:49 am Reply with quote

I do love to give, it makes me feel so much better.


Kev.
If things don't change, they'll stay the same...
Ive tried gardening, yoga, meditation and medication and yet I still want to slap someone sometimes..

 
Posted by Stand-Offish on Fri Apr 16, 2010 9:02 am Reply with quote

At least speed cameras are in the main visible, even speed partnership ones in vans, if you keep a weather eye open.
So at least in conjunction with GPS World camera downloads into your device you have a chance.

If they ever started sticking tiny cameras in telegraph poles and the likes, we'd all be fooked.....but then there would be uproar.
Or maybe we would all adhere religiously to speed limits Laughing ;;I

personally stick to speed limits, even though I have camera warnings, since my money is my money after tax....and thbarstewardsds are not going to get anymore if I can help it. But even so there may be brief times when I drift a couple of miles over the limit, particularly on motorways.

The general speed on motorways is more like 80 than 70. If they ever started putting tiny hidden cameras every few hundred yards, they would make a fortune until we lost our licences or slowed down.

Now obviously, they wouldn't want that, not least because they would get no income (as well as crippling the economy). So it is a fine balance to optimise speeding revenue without killing the goose that lays the golden egg.

My cynical view is that as people stop giving them revenue, by surprisingly sticking to speed limits like I do, they will lower those limits in an attempt to revitalise the revenue stream, otherwise they are out of a job. That's the part of speed camera partnerships that offends me the most, it's not all about safety, if they don't get revenue they are out of a job, so it's in their interests to create situations where people can be caught. Cool

Anyway the answer is for everyone do do exactly as the speed partnerships want and stick to all speed limits.
The whole industry would quickly collapse....at least until they thought of another rouse.


 
Posted by Holdfast on Fri Apr 16, 2010 9:49 am Reply with quote

One possible solution to offset Police Forces income would be to allow the Police to keep a some of the income generated from fines as a result of the use of the 10500+ ANPR cameras in the UK.


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Posted by andrewdwork on Fri Apr 16, 2010 10:46 am Reply with quote

If we must have speed (cash) cameras, let's at least have reasonably fair cameras. The average speed concept is at least more considerate of changing conditions than the "spot" speed checks done by van cams.
Time was when to be convicted the police had to follow you for 5/8 mile and your speed had to be consistantly over the limit for a sucessful prosecution.
At 60MPH the laser speed cams do 300 counts in 0.3 seconds. That is over a distance of about 29 feet! I have no way to challenge that, just accept that the gear was working correctly on the day and the operator knew how to drive it properly.
My car is a Renault Laguna 3 with markings of 20,40,60,80 100 MPH and a line on the intervening 10MPH marks. It seems to be almost spot on as well, no 5mph comfort zone like the boss's Ford. Even with the speed limiter set to 30 MPH a down hill slope can give an increase in speed. Eyes off the speedo to do what we should (LOOK AT THE ROAD CONDITIONS) and you can be doing 35 easily. What is the answer? Maybe a bit more leeway or common sense from the police authorities, although I would not hold my breath!


 
Posted by spook51 on Sat Apr 17, 2010 7:13 am Reply with quote

"With 1 in 3 motorists convinced that all three main political parties are anti-motorist....."

So two-thirds of motorists don't think all three main political parties are anti-motorist?
How much does it take to convince them??


 
Posted by asp245 on Sun Apr 18, 2010 9:01 am Reply with quote

I dont like the comment - "a tax on the already over burdened motorist". A tax is something that the average person cannot avoid ( legitmately) paying. You can avoid paying the fine and getting the 3 points by not exceeding the speed limit so therefore it is not a tax.


 
Posted by mike4642 on Sun Apr 18, 2010 9:29 am Reply with quote

asp I dont like your comment you sound like a right little goody goody bet you vote for Nick Smeg as well


 
Posted by spook51 on Sun Apr 18, 2010 9:43 am Reply with quote

asp245 Wrote:
I dont like the comment - "a tax on the already over burdened motorist". A tax is something that the average person cannot avoid ( legitmately) paying.


Incorrect. Tax avoidance is possible (legally) - you may wish to verify this to your advantage
Wink


 
Posted by K13ehr on Sun Apr 18, 2010 5:21 pm Reply with quote

I thought this was a GPS site, not Pedants united


Kev.
If things don't change, they'll stay the same...
Ive tried gardening, yoga, meditation and medication and yet I still want to slap someone sometimes..

 
Posted by Holdfast on Sun Apr 18, 2010 7:15 pm Reply with quote

Well said K13ehr.

I wonder if North Yorks will target the B1257, sometimes known as the Helmsley TT. Bikers beware.


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