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CES 2010: Garmin News Leaks ahead of show


Article by: Darren Griffin
Date: 5 Jan 2010

pocketgpsworld.comGarmin's product news has leaked ahead of the CES Show which begins this Thursday.

There is very little of real surprise here, the Zumo 665, Garmin's latest motorcycle specific PND is announced. ecoRoute HD is slightly more interesting. This is a cable that connects supported Garmin devices to the OBDII port fitted to all modern vehicles. This allows it to display vehicle specific data. The idea being you can see your fuel consumption and moderate your driving style in order to achieve the optimum fuel efficiency.

Finally, Garmin Voice Studio is unveiled. A PC application that will allow you to record your own voice instructions for upload to your Garmin nav. It won't provide Text To Speech functionality but it might be fun for a short while.

No specific news of the Nuvifone or any of the new Nuvifone models which were promised last year but we'll keep you posted.

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Posted by darrengsaw on Tue Jan 05, 2010 5:05 pm Reply with quote

Nothing overly groundbreaking there then.

Not sure I could be bothered to connect my nuvi to the car's brain, how simple actually is it to do, does it really give any benefits?

Maybe catching up with TomTom's routing might be more useful......


 
Posted by Darren on Tue Jan 05, 2010 5:11 pm Reply with quote

darrengsaw Wrote:
Not sure I could be bothered to connect my nuvi to the car's brain, how simple actually is it to do, does it really give any benefits?

Very simple, the OBDII socket is normally under the steering wheel and easily located. It's the socket that the dealer connects their diagnostic information to.

There are already some nice gadgets for OBDII. I have a ScanGauge on my dash which reports all manner of data.

So the Garmin solution is fairly simple, the socket is always by necessity accessible and so the cable is easily connected but a Bluetooth solution would have been neater requiring less cables which I hate.


Darren Griffin - Editor

 
Posted by darrengsaw on Tue Jan 05, 2010 7:59 pm Reply with quote

Ok, that is quite interesting, I had visions of delving around hunting for some obscure port under the rocker cover or something!! Laughing


 
Posted by mikealder on Tue Jan 05, 2010 8:29 pm Reply with quote

OBD-II was manditory for all Petrol engined cars sold in Europe since 2001 and Diesels since 2003 although depending upon the manufacturer some cars were equipped with the capability earlier than this, for more more information have a look at WiKi the diagnostic port is normally in the cars interiour, footwell, center console, under the dashboard.

An OBD-II reader is great fun for pin pointing faults with a car or simply watching gauges on a PDA pffering a digital dashboard, it will be interesting to see what Garmin offer via the interface but a cabled install is a bad move, I already own and use a Bluetooth OBD-II port reader ICW an old PDA for displaying the parameters I am interested in.

Anything adding cables around the driver in a car isn't clever for vehicle safety and often the diagnostic port is covered by trim that needs to be removed to gain access to the plug negating a longer term connection as it simply doesn't look good with bits of trim missing and cables all over the car - Mike


 
Posted by Kar98 on Tue Jan 05, 2010 10:43 pm Reply with quote

darrengsaw Wrote:
how simple actually is it to do


On my 97 Golf, the OBD-II port is under a cover right next to the ashtray.

Quote:
does it really give any benefits?


No more than existing gadgets like upshift indicator, tach, trip meter and MPG gauge would. Much more interesting would be a recorder/calculator that actually checks how much fuel is used in real volume, not on average. I might be getting 35 mpg on average taking a longer route, but use much less actual fuel by volume on the shorter one.


 
Posted by gatorguy6996 on Tue Jan 05, 2010 11:30 pm Reply with quote

Garmin's new Ecoroute HD functionality does offer a bit more than what you may think. One of the biggies is that it can report on problems with various drivetrain, emissions, and charging system components, and it can be used to reset trouble codes. And Darren, it is wireless as far as I know. Uses bluetooth to transmit from the plug in dongle to your nuvi.


Garmin 1695 / 255 / 760 w/MSN - Droid w/Google nav + Navigon - Navigon 8100T - Dakota10 - GPSMap76C - GeoMate Jr.

 
Posted by Darren on Wed Jan 06, 2010 10:24 am Reply with quote

gatorguy6996 Wrote:
And Darren, it is wireless as far as I know. Uses bluetooth to transmit from the plug in dongle to your nuvi.

Ah that's good if correct, my source mentioned availability of the cable but this may be confusion on her part?


Darren Griffin - Editor

 
Posted by gatorguy6996 on Thu Jan 07, 2010 12:12 am Reply with quote

I did confirm, and the dongle is wireless.

I also found a pretty nice explanation of EcoRoute HD:
Here


Garmin 1695 / 255 / 760 w/MSN - Droid w/Google nav + Navigon - Navigon 8100T - Dakota10 - GPSMap76C - GeoMate Jr.

 
Posted by Darren on Thu Jan 07, 2010 10:54 am Reply with quote

Thanks, that's much better! If it can access any of the standard OBDII and CanBus data points then it would be very attractive to me. Being able to monitor functions such as Traction Battery charge and RPM is a useful aid to extracting the best possible fuel consumption from a Prius and the reason I use a Scangauge now.

Excellent as the Scangauge is, a large colour screen with proper dials to relay the info is much better but I fear this will be rather limited in ecoRoute. We shall see.


Darren Griffin - Editor

 
Posted by lbendlin on Thu Jan 07, 2010 1:22 pm Reply with quote

We did an interview with Garmin about the OBD-II so watch this space (ahem).


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Posted by stuartb on Fri Jan 08, 2010 10:33 am Reply with quote

I hope they disable some of the displays whilst moving. Things like "scores" for today would otherwise be a needless distraction from safer driving. Satnav makers should recognise their responsibility to avoid creating further distractions. Not sure why anyone would want a rev counter on their satnav. Are their many cars without rev counters now? Intake temperature? There must be a huge market for that kind of info.

Does anyone else feel like the satnav companies have rather lost their way? Feels a bit like Microsoft now - they keep adding feature after feature whilst basic stuff still doesn't work properly. In the case of satnav it's the data where effort is required. I appreciate they are different companies but Garmin, Tom Tom et al should be doing more with teh data providers to fix core data quality issues and not inventing toys.

Stuart


 
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