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PostPosted: Sun Jan 19, 2020 10:25 pm    Post subject: Drivesmart 65 MT-D Reply with quote

Has anyone got anything detrimental to report about this device? I've seen reports of it continually rebooting during journeys but that was during it's early days.
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 20, 2020 12:36 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

If this is for a new purchase, get an LMT-D version for the lifetime maps.
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 20, 2020 6:00 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I don't think Garmin priduce ""L" versions any more. That's why I bought an older DS61 LMT-D when my 2699 battery started fully diischarging within 72hrs.

I did try and find out why the L had been dropped but there were conflicting answers.

Some were saying maps could still be updated forever whilst others, like me, could see a time limit being introduced, planned obsolescence maybe.
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 20, 2020 7:24 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks for the input. I already have the 61 LMT-D and just wonder whether the 65 is so much better that it's worth the cost of an upgrade or whether I just sit back until a superior unit is produced.
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 20, 2020 7:34 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Seems it maybe just a marketing problem:

https://www.smarthouse.com.au/tomtom-garmin-navman-drop-lifetime-claims/
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 20, 2020 10:41 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Just had a look at the 65. Seems that Alexa features strongly. As far as I understand, Alexa is pretty reliant on an internet connection.
Have you got one of those in your car without fannying about with a phone battery eating hot spot and plenty of mobile data? I don't.
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 20, 2020 6:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have lots of mobile data, more than enough to cope but I've had a long hard think about the 65 and decided to sit back for the time being until a future unit has so many tweaks that it'll be irresistible.

Thanks both.
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 20, 2020 7:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Whether it's navigation devices or dashcams they are packing, or trying to pack so much in they are ignoring the basic idea the device is designed to do.

I do occasionally look in on the Nextbase forum and it's got issues with the new tech like Alexa and the SOS function but surprisingly they still haven't got their parking mode sorted properly which is a dashcam core function for some.

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PostPosted: Mon Jan 20, 2020 8:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Or the rear cam which apparently 'freezes' when it is cold.
And it's KISS, with the second 'S' being 'Stupid'.
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 20, 2020 11:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Totally agree with both your comments. The more additions there are, the greater the chance of something going wrong. It's the same with all technologies nowadays.
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 21, 2020 4:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Kremmen wrote:
That's Some were saying maps could still be updated forever whilst others, like me, could see a time limit being introduced, planned obsolescence maybe.

In defense of Garmin, they released a software update for the Nuvi 3590, which I bought in 2012 and still have as a backup, a few weeks ago and still issue NT map updates for units like the Nuvi 760 that I bought in 2008.
Maybe if they guaranteed maps updates for, say, 10 years, rather than "Lifetime", it would get around potential problems.
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 05, 2020 2:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I was thinking of getting the DS 65 LMT-D without Alexa and having downloaded speed cams poiís and voices from this site wondered if it was possible to load these directly to the device via WiFi from my Apple computer without using Garmin Express?

Has anyone tried this and did it work, the reason I ask is because my current 3598LMT wonít talk to me as it approaches speed cameras as SOX is not compatible with Apple in order to have the voices play.

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PostPosted: Mon Apr 06, 2020 12:04 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Intrakota wrote:
... wondered if it was possible to load these directly to the device via WiFi from my Apple computer without using Garmin Express?


As a standard supported feature - probably no chance Crying or Very sad

My Zumo can download updates over Wifi and it struck me, that with a bit of Wiresharking and reverse-engineering, it might be possible to subvert the mechanism to download the Speed Camera database.

Other than the thought crossing my mind, I've done absolutely nothing about implementing it though Rolling Eyes
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 06, 2020 7:43 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Intrakota wrote:
I was thinking of getting the DS 65 LMT-D without Alexa and having downloaded speed cams poiís and voices from this site wondered if it was possible to load these directly to the device via WiFi from my Apple computer without using Garmin Express?


Not sure why you mention Express, that isn't required to load speed cams or voices from this site.
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 06, 2020 10:34 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

If you want POILoader to import voices then unfortunately you do need Windows.
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