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PostPosted: Sun Mar 10, 2019 11:54 am    Post subject: Bedfordshire To Get More Average Speed Cameras Reply with quote

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More speed cameras are due to be activated in Bedfordshire.

Seven average speed cameras will be installed in locations across the county. Speeding motorists will be targeted in Bromham, Clapham, Colmworth, Elstow, Willington, Kempston and Bedford.

Dave Hodgson, the Mayor of Bedford Borough commented: "Speeding is a common concern for local communities across the Borough, so we're taking action to reduce speeds and make our roads safer. These cameras will join other average speed cameras already in place in our Borough, which have already had a positive impact on road users and local communities."

He added: "They have brought speeds down, made our roads safer for all and improved the day-to-day experience of those who live in proximity to speeding hot-spots."

A significant amount of people are either ignorant of how average speed cameras work (including foreign drivers), lose concentration or blatantly ignore the speed limit. It is likely that many believe that the cameras are not actually switched on.

For those that do not know, pairs of cameras monitor a stretch of road. The first of the pair spot your number plate and start a timer. The second camera spots your number plate again when you complete that stretch and makes a calculation. It measures your average speed over the stretch and then compares it to the allowed speed.

The cameras are due to be switched on in the summer and the money raised in fines will go to central government.
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 11, 2019 6:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I don't have a problem with specs cameras as I believe them to be the true "safety camera". Because they are spaced along a length of road, they can be a bit more forgiving of a stray overspeed, whereas the flash and "gotcha" cash cows don't bring any safety, but increase the possibility of a rear ender when the brakes are applied heavily in front.
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 11, 2019 8:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I assume all new specs can tell the difference between different classes of vehicle too Sad
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 11, 2019 8:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Are they ANPR equipped then?
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 12, 2019 1:58 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well it's a bit of a grey area, especially with the rumour-mill as well.
It was widely reported that the newer camera's in Essex on the A12 could distinguish vehicle classes and would ticket for class speed limit infringement. THey tend to be the smaller ones faciing away from you to catch the rear of the vehicle.
Some clarification would be useful as I can't see any lifting of speed limits for up to 3.5t to car speed limits before I retire!
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 12, 2019 6:02 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Good point.

I wonder if technology could pick out the large 4x4 towing a caravan at 70+ down the motorway.
Not seen that many but enough to know it's dangerous.
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 12, 2019 9:47 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The old wet film gatsos could tell the difference, so with more modern tech, why not? Simple process and plenty of time to look up reg on DVLA between first cam and second cam.
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 12, 2019 10:39 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

marksfish wrote:
Are they ANPR equipped then?

I don't know BUT logic suggests probability...

I never did believe the hype that the cameras do anything other than read the number plate. I bet it simply passes this to the central thingy with the time stamp. The (any) next camera transmits the same details and the central thingy then uses the distance between the two cameras to calculate if you've done the distance at speed to exceed the average limit. If so, get vehicle details and issue a ticket - In my opinion, there's no way all those cameras are sufficiently "intelligent" to do that themselves, has to be a central computer thingy, which obviously will be able to do all sorts of magic stuff like ANPR.
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 12, 2019 10:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

DennisN wrote:
marksfish wrote:
Are they ANPR equipped then?

I don't know BUT logic suggests probability...

I never did believe the hype that the cameras do anything other than read the number plate. I bet it simply passes this to the central thingy with the time stamp. The (any) next camera transmits the same details and the central thingy then uses the distance between the two cameras to calculate if you've done the distance at speed to exceed the average limit. If so, get vehicle details and issue a ticket - In my opinion, there's no way all those cameras are sufficiently "intelligent" to do that themselves, has to be a central computer thingy, which obviously will be able to do all sorts of magic stuff like ANPR.


And, if myth is to be believed, they generate an addressed envelope into which the penalty is inserted for posting. I recall there was a report on how this worked when the M1 went 'smart motorway'.

There has, for many years, been the ability to identify large goods vehicles from other types. Manual handling of the Gatso film would confirm the actual class and generate an appropriate penalty but many authorities could not be bothered to do this. There were two Gatso cameras in the UK on the A5 Tamworth and in another Cumbria which are/were used on a regular basis to prosecute HGV offenders exceeding 40 on a 50 NSL road.. ANPR digital cameras can automatically identify vehicle classification from the registration as TfL Congestion Charge, Dart Charge etc will confirm. Light vans and HGV/LGV are penalised based on vehicle class for speeding and weight restrictions.
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 12, 2019 10:44 pm    Post subject: Re: Bedfordshire To Get More Average Speed Cameras Reply with quote

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More speed cameras are due to be activated in Bedfordshire.

Seven average speed cameras will be installed in locations across the county. Speeding motorists will be targeted in Bromham, Clapham, Colmworth, Elstow, Willington, Kempston and Bedford.

Dave Hodgson, the Mayor of Bedford Borough commented: "Speeding is a common concern for local communities across the Borough, so we're taking action to reduce speeds and make our roads safer. These cameras will join other average speed cameras already in place in our Borough, which have already had a positive impact on road users and local communities."


The cameras are due to be switched on in the summer and the money raised in fines will go to central government.


Bedford Council gone ASC mad and yet more to supplement the 14 sets already in use.

As most offenders will opt for a course the money raised will go to the companies running these courses, the AA and others, and a small donation to the Police.

This is the Mayor who complains that closing a road for several weeks to rebuild a railway overbridge for electrification work does nothing for the town.
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 13, 2019 9:47 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

One thing I do know is that the A40, heading into London, had at least one serious accident a month with a few more minor ones causing weekly tailbacks.

Since they covered the whole 10 mile+ stretch with average speed there has hardly been any accidents.

Yes it looks boring with all 3 lanes all travelling in convoy at the same speed but it's safer and must be cheaper with no or reduced ambulances, hospitals required, etc.

Plus, the traffic flows, it never used to.
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