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bmuskett
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 23, 2018 4:27 pm    Post subject: Little evidence 20mph speed limit reduces casualties Reply with quote

From today's Grauniad.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2018/nov/23/little-evidence-20mph-speed-limit-cuts-casualties-says-uk-report
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 23, 2018 5:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

So when are the Government busy-bodys going to get a grip and tell local councils to stop wasting local taxpayers money as 20MPH doesn't work.
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 25, 2018 12:05 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

How odd. The 20 limit works well everywhere I drive.
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 25, 2018 6:38 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's all psychology.

In unmonitored areas drivers tend to do up to 35+ in 30 areas but only tend to do up to 30 in 20 areas. Still speeding but safer.

I was walking round Islington a few weeks ago, camera spotting, which is 20mph on ALL roads and the vehicles passing me were certainly all doing over 20.
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 26, 2018 1:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Im sure I read a couple of years back that 20mph limits were un-enforceable, is this still the case or are councils pulling the wool over our eyes ?
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 26, 2018 8:30 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Not true. If correctly signed you can be prosecuted.

http://www.20splenty.org/police_enforcement
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 26, 2018 9:32 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

If general perception is correct, the police have better things to do than to prosecute motorists exceeding and ill advised 20MPH zone.
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 26, 2018 10:34 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

This is Keynsham. The nice man in fluorescent gear and bike wanders around here regularly, never in the same spot so I haven't submitted him. And I don't know if he's authorised, becauise his back says Police STAFF as opposed to just Police. Sorry it's such a lousy picture, I was under cover doing sneaky.



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PostPosted: Wed Nov 28, 2018 10:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

20 mph is so difficult to stick to even wen trying

If it was si important all new vehicles would have to have limiters on that would not go over 20 when set, and also could be calibrated by GPS I'm sure
So is it more about milking than road saftety ?
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 28, 2018 11:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I do NOT have difficulty sticking to 20mph. My vehicle will tick over in third gear and stay under 20. I KNOW not to trample on the accelerator pedal and all will be well.

In my opinion, EVERYBODY can do the same - find a gear which will trundle along at less than 20mph and leave your right foot above pedal level.
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 28, 2018 11:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Stecha wrote:
20 mph is so difficult to stick to even wen trying


Really? When you reverse into a parking space I'm sure you keep your speed below 20? Just use a similar technique when going forward Rolling Eyes
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 29, 2018 12:15 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

sussamb wrote:
Stecha wrote:
20 mph is so difficult to stick to even wen trying


Really? When you reverse into a parking space I'm sure you keep your speed below 20? Just use a similar technique when going forward Rolling Eyes


What ? that makes no sense
Irrelevant or what
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 29, 2018 7:34 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Stecha wrote:
sussamb wrote:
Stecha wrote:
20 mph is so difficult to stick to even wen trying


Really? When you reverse into a parking space I'm sure you keep your speed below 20? Just use a similar technique when going forward Rolling Eyes


What ? that makes no sense
Irrelevant or what

Of course it makes sense. Of course itís relevant. What it means is that a driverís speed is not an act of God, itís an act of Driver.
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 29, 2018 8:25 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

DennisN wrote:
Stecha wrote:
sussamb wrote:
Stecha wrote:
20 mph is so difficult to stick to even wen trying


Really? When you reverse into a parking space I'm sure you keep your speed below 20? Just use a similar technique when going forward Rolling Eyes


What ? that makes no sense
Irrelevant or what

Of course it makes sense. Of course itís relevant. What it means is that a driverís speed is not an act of God, itís an act of Driver.


Its not relevant, I have no problem reversing

DennisN wrote:
a driverís speed is not an act of God, itís an act of Driver.


Correct, good job i dont actually speed then, only said it difficult to stick to, unless you drive a van apparently :D
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 29, 2018 9:06 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I drive cars and also used to drive on blue lights. Tell me a speed and I can drive at it, as Dennis says it's not difficult, car speed is completely in the hands, and feet, of the driver.
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