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Darren Frequent Visitor

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Posted: Thu Jul 03, 2014 11:53 am Post subject: Galileo satellite in trouble? |
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It appears that one of Galileo's in-orbit validation (IOV) satellites may be in trouble.
GSAT0104 has been flagged as 'unavailable until further notice' since 28 May (see here). GPSWorld is reporting that observers have been unable to detect any signal from the satellite since May 27.
The ESA have made no official announcement about the issue but speculation is mounting that the issue may be serious and linked to a component used for signal timing.
This is the first serious issue to affect Galileo's fleet of satellites but these are still validation vehicles and they exist to test the hardware and identify faults before the full constellation of satellites is launched.
Source: GPSWorld.com
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CDK Regular Visitor

Joined: Apr 20, 2006 Posts: 122 Location: Ashford. Kent. UK.
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Posted: Thu Jul 03, 2014 6:03 pm Post subject: |
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Its probably the NSA testing/validating their 'OFF' switch!
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K13ehr Lifetime Member
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Posted: Sun Jul 06, 2014 7:50 am Post subject: |
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Likely a dumb question, but will we all need to buy anew sat nav when it's all up and running or will older ones just continue to use the existing satellites only, I assume the latter. |
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JimmyTheHand Frequent Visitor

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Posted: Sun Jul 06, 2014 7:46 pm Post subject: |
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Your old satnav should continue working OK using the USA GPS satellites - the Galileo system will be another system that duplicates them, but independent if required _________________ J. |
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PiaggioMP3 Occasional Visitor

Joined: Jun 19, 2008 Posts: 26
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Posted: Sun Jul 06, 2014 11:45 pm Post subject: |
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And there are other systems that are also available as a lot of GPS systems are compatible.
Other satellite navigation systems in use or various states of development include:
GLONASS – Russia's global navigation system. Fully operational worldwide.
Galileo – a global system being developed by the European Union and other partner countries, planned to be operational by 2014 (and fully deployed by 2019)
Beidou – People's Republic of China's regional system, currently limited to Asia and the West Pacific
COMPASS – People's Republic of China's global system, planned to be operational by 2020
IRNSS – India's regional navigation system, planned to be operational by 2014, covering India and Northern Indian Ocean
QZSS – Japanese regional system covering Asia and Oceania |
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CDK Regular Visitor

Joined: Apr 20, 2006 Posts: 122 Location: Ashford. Kent. UK.
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Posted: Wed Jul 09, 2014 12:38 am Post subject: |
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PiaggioMP3 wrote: | And there are other systems that are also available as a lot of GPS systems are compatible.
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But possibly on different frequencies and encryption.
I think I read somewhere that the GPS receivers in the newer Nokia/Microsoft smart phones can use both the US and Russian satellite data.
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M8TJT The Other Tired Old Man


Joined: Apr 04, 2006 Posts: 10118 Location: Bexhill, South Sussex, UK
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Posted: Wed Jul 09, 2014 8:11 am Post subject: |
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And Samsung phones/tablets |
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K13ehr Lifetime Member
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Posted: Wed Jul 09, 2014 8:20 am Post subject: |
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M8TJT wrote: | And Samsung phones/tablets |
How do you do that then, me being a none techy type. |
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M8TJT The Other Tired Old Man


Joined: Apr 04, 2006 Posts: 10118 Location: Bexhill, South Sussex, UK
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Posted: Wed Jul 09, 2014 8:32 am Post subject: |
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You don't. They just do it.
If you load the 'GPS Status' app. GPS sats are indicated by a round blob and GLONAS by a square blob with much higher IDs (up in the sixties) |
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Posted: Wed Jul 09, 2014 12:30 pm Post subject: |
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Thanks M8  |
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