Right turn and box junction cameras in London

shaungw · Occasional Visitor Joined: Sep 16, 2007 Posts: 4

hi. i agree that a box junction camera poi file would be greatly appreciated. i'm a speed camera subscriber and just came on here looking for a box junction poi download but couldn't find one. i'm sure it would save a lot of motorists a small fortune in london...

DennisN · Posted: Tue Feb 12, 2013 2:27 pm Post subject:

I was surprised by that BBC report link. I had always thought that the signs for box junctions and turn violations meant there was enforcement not by a Gatso sort of thingy, but by CCTV as this.....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZapPRLFTtqg&list=UUCgoCrSPRrnsRS91hqSROtA&index=6
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pcaouolte · Posted: Tue Feb 12, 2013 6:18 pm Post subject:

You are right Dennis. We have had tickets where their "evidence" is provided by timed still photographs grabbed from CCTV camera footage.

It can also be difficult to get them to release the CCTV footage. Sometimes they will give you access to a web page where you can view the CCTV recording but sometimes their response is along the lines of "we've looked at the recording and you're definately guilty".
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Andy_P · Posted: Tue Feb 12, 2013 8:52 pm Post subject:

There's always the registration lookup service provided by http://i-database.co.uk/
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shaungw · Occasional Visitor Joined: Sep 16, 2007 Posts: 4

yeah, thanks for that, andy. fortunately, i've seen it before! does anybody else have a genuine solution? Smile

bmuskett · Posted: Tue Feb 19, 2013 10:57 pm Post subject:

A solution to what? You want something which will tell you whether or not you'll get fined if you block a box junction? Surely the solution is not to enter a box junction if your exit isn't clear. Whether there's a camera there or not.

M8TJT · Posted: Wed Feb 20, 2013 12:21 am Post subject:

But surely that argument is equally as valid for the speed cameras that we do support. If you don't want to get caught, don't speed. Simples Very Happy

bmuskett · Posted: Wed Feb 20, 2013 9:39 am Post subject:

Equally as valid. It's why I never used the red light cameras - I don't need a warning to tell me whether or not I can jump a red traffic light without getting fined. And it's why I rarely use the speed camera database these days. Mobiles can be anywhere, as it appears a CamerAlert user found recently. Only solution is not to speed.

bmuskett · Posted: Wed Jun 12, 2013 2:11 pm Post subject:

Kremmen · Posted: Thu Jun 13, 2013 6:30 am Post subject:

It was on Panorama and it confirmed what we already know.

The councils are using it as a revenue generating exercise to replace the forced reduction in council tax imposed by the Gov.

Hammersmith & Fulham council being the worst highway robbers of them all.

What is worrying is the statement that many other councils around the country are watching H&F to see if they can adopt similar strategies.

A Gov minister/spokesman said on the program that he considered many of their tactics were probably illegal but Gov weren't going to interfere at this stage.
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sussamb · Posted: Thu Jun 13, 2013 6:36 am Post subject:

The other take is that they're simply fining inconsiderate drivers who break the law by blocking junctions when they shouldn't, which makes driving conditions worse for all of us Wink

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