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JaTe
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 16, 2012 3:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I would agree with you Fellwalker, I have come across the same. In fact it seems that some potential bridleways also get included.
I can recount one very recent example at Littlecote House just outside of Hungerford, where they have the site's exit gate as a way in and there is a short stretch of 'road' shown as accessible immediately adjacent whereas in actual fact it is only just about a walkable ground soil pathway overgrown with trees, it is certainly not a tarmac surface or similar. Hopefully TT will amend the roads into Littlecote House accordingly as I have submitted them as corrections.
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 16, 2012 3:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

JaTe wrote:
I would agree with you Fellwalker, I have come across the same. In fact it seems that some potential bridleways also get included.
I can recount one very recent example at Littlecote House just outside of Hungerford, where they have the site's exit gate as a way in and there is a short stretch of 'road' shown as accessible immediately adjacent whereas in actual fact it is only just about a walkable ground soil pathway overgrown with trees, it is certainly not a tarmac surface or similar. Hopefully TT will amend the roads into Littlecote House accordingly as I have submitted them as corrections.
We can but hope. I got a response from TomTom 18 MONTHS after one of my submissions to confirm that they had accepted it and WOULD be amending it in future! There really is no excuse for it.
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 18, 2012 4:14 pm    Post subject: Help? pleae Help? Reply with quote

Hi all

Help?

Saw this thread and thought that look like a good offer from Sygic, as a friend as just got herself a new S3, and thought to give her the the free license along with a SDCard I have got for her for Christmas,, so went ahead and got UK & Ireland , got the email with my license, and
Discount Code then got the other license, this was done without an account because of unable to create one.

Now for why I need the help please, having a big problem with creating a Sygic account, every time I try to create the account [I have tried at least 15 times now Sad] it keep returning:- Bad antispam code Surprised.

Have tried Two OS and three system, Win and Linux along with three different web browsers, [i]Internet Explore, Mozilla Firefox and Konqueror all give the same result.

Now need some help please, having a small problem with creating a Sygic account, every time I try to create the account [I have tried at least 15 times now Sad] it keep returning Bad antispam code Surprised.

I have tried to find a way to [to get help] report the issue to them, but have been unable to fine a support page to this.

Would any one know how I can get in touch with Sygic support about the problem I am having?

Many thanks in advance
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PS. Sorry it I seem to go around the houses to get to the point, but I have NEVER Grrrr had a problem like this before. Embarassed
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 18, 2012 4:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Have you tried Googling for Sygic Support? To save you the time, I've done it for you and it's here
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 18, 2012 6:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi M8TJT
M8TJT wrote:
Have you tried Googling for Sygic Support? To save you the time, I've done it for you and it's here

Thank you for replying.

Yes I had [have] been to that page but it is of no help, because of the type of [my] request.

The big problem is they [sygic] show no contact email address anywhere that I can see. Surprised

If anyone as an sygic account, may be there is way of them pointing sygic to my post. Rolling Eyes

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PostPosted: Tue Dec 18, 2012 6:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I can't for the life of me see why you can't ask your question on their support page. There is an 'Other' in the type drop down. I have used this page in the past and have had a fairly quick reply Very Happy
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 18, 2012 10:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi M8TJT
M8TJT wrote:
I can't for the life of me see why you can't ask your question on their support page. There is an 'Other' in the type drop down. I have used this page in the past and have had a fairly quick reply Very Happy

Thank you again for getting back to me.

For the the life of me I did not see the Other tab in the drop down Embarassed, will give it a try.

Many thanks
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 19, 2012 2:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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why would you want to force a satnav to use a different route to what it recommends?

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Multi reasons. One being friends/family who know the congested area of north London advise a completely different approach, one of which agreed with TomTom on their Live Traffic website. Even Google maps did not take me the Sygic route.

So yes, that's another very valid reason - in the above and in some of my other experiences, Sygic does not agree with other route planners, including Michelin's web site.

For an example of Sygic daftness: http://tinyurl.com/bncfdkv . Just to say at that time, TT Live Traffic didn't show any problem at that point.

In some ways I am sad Sygic does not meet expectations because I prefer its actual map interface and it finds satellite signals much quicker than TT. And I do know that TT likes to take one down farm tracks - because it has cut back on road classification data to make way for more superfluous information.

JaTe asked:
Surely if you don't have faith in Sygic then why don't you revert back to TomTom?

I reluctantly have paid out to do that! I now need to update my signature to show I have the Android version of TomTom.
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 19, 2012 3:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi navtrav, I understand what you are saying however I personally don't rely too heavily on TT HD Traffic and IQ Routes together, because one experience I had just over a year ago whilst returning from a course at the Lifeboat College in Poole had me doing just the opposite.

I was coming up the M3 towards the M25 and the TT (750 Live) had me routed onto the M25 towards the Dartford River Crossing on a Friday evening.

Now, for anyone who knows and works that area as I was when doing coach work, that is not an area to really want to get held up in, however the TT deemed that I should go that way with its IQ planning. Needless to say that I ignored the route in favour of local (my) knowledge and headed around the western sector of the M25 to come off at J28. Now from the M3 to J28 it is shorter to take the western sector in any event, whereas to do A3 to J28 it is best to take the eastern sector and the Tunnel on a distance basis. Not a single hold up encountered and I literally sailed around, but the TT still tried to turn me back onto its route via the DRC until at least the M40 junc.

On another occasion whilst on the North Circular Road whilst heading towards the A4 - diverted because of an incident on the M25 causing long delays - the Traffic data routed me around another delay into a real problem, a dead end road that the map data had not been amended to.

Through those incidents I have come to the conclusion that there is no system that is worse or better and at the moment with the TT Android app v1.1.1 still awaited, I am seriously thinking of not bothering even when it does come out, but maybe that thought may change - I don't know for sure.
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 19, 2012 3:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

[quote="navtrav"]
Fellwalker wrote:


why would you want to force a satnav to use a different route to what it recommends?

...https://dl.dropbox.com/u/31011761/Screenshot_2012-12-19-14-11-17.png

Multi reasons. One being friends/family who know the congested area of north London advise a completely different approach, one of which agreed with TomTom on their Live Traffic website. Even Google maps did not take me the Sygic route.

So yes, that's another very valid reason - in the above and in some of my other experiences, Sygic does not agree with other route planners, including Michelin's web site.

For an example of Sygic daftness: http://tinyurl.com/bncfdkv . Just to say at that time, TT Live Traffic didn't show any problem at that point.

In some ways I am sad Sygic does not meet expectations because I prefer its actual map interface and it finds satellite signals much quicker than TT. And I do know that TT likes to take one down farm tracks - because it has cut back on road classification data to make way for more superfluous information.
How on earth do you get sygic to route like that?
I created route from Highgate Library to Holiday Inn Golders Green. It takes me straight along the A1. I have no experience of their traffic system.
I started with Co-pilot 6, which had gorgeous maps with proper details of the bends, so it was wonderful just to run with that on but not routing, so you could anticipate the bends. Its routing was pretty rubbish, so next was TomTom 5, but they abandoned everyone except their stand alone systems. Out of date maps left no way to move forward on my iPAQ or HD2. I tried several (see sig) and settled on Sygic as it was by far the best - i do not get weird routing from it, and have found it coincided with local knowledge in many cases. IMHO, TomTom just want lots of money from you.

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PostPosted: Wed Dec 19, 2012 3:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi M8TJT

Have sorted it, very quick reply from sygic support, as you said.

Many thank again for pointing me to the 'Other' Thumbs Up

A very happy Christmas to You, Your Family and Friend. Merry Xmas

With regards
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 19, 2012 6:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Fellwalker wrote:
navtrav wrote:



For an example of Sygic daftness: http://tinyurl.com/bncfdkv . Just to say at that time, TT Live Traffic didn't show any problem at that point.

How on earth do you get sygic to route like that?
I created route from Highgate Library to Holiday Inn Golders Green. It takes me straight along the A1.



How on earth indeed? As you can see, there were no waypoints to make Sygic want to take me that way. I wonder if you did your route in reverse (mine was going north south, or is that west east at that point?)

Sygic did a very similar trick in central Oxford when it unnecessarily took me a real peculiar way. It directed me down what turned out to be one of the university roads with at the far end a gate...locked closed! But even accounting for the lane mistake, it was still a circuituous route when I should just have stayed on the main road.

Luckily real-life signposts eventually came to the rescue and we were not late for the theatre performance!
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 19, 2012 7:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

C'mon fellwalker, either resize your picture to comply with the forum rules, or delete it. It's screwing up the whole page and does not realy add anything to your post.
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 19, 2012 8:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

M8TJT wrote:


... resize your picture to comply with the forum rules



Tired, old - and grumpy? Sounds like me, but even so, must I search for forum rules when a 'verifier' could have so easily put in brackets pixels x pixels or whatever?
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 19, 2012 11:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

navtrav wrote:
Fellwalker wrote:
navtrav wrote:



For an example of Sygic daftness: http://tinyurl.com/bncfdkv . Just to say at that time, TT Live Traffic didn't show any problem at that point.

How on earth do you get sygic to route like that?
I created route from Highgate Library to Holiday Inn Golders Green. It takes me straight along the A1.



How on earth indeed? As you can see, there were no waypoints to make Sygic want to take me that way. I wonder if you did your route in reverse (mine was going north south, or is that west east at that point?)

Sygic did a very similar trick in central Oxford when it unnecessarily took me a real peculiar way. It directed me down what turned out to be one of the university roads with at the far end a gate...locked closed! But even accounting for the lane mistake, it was still a circuituous route when I should just have stayed on the main road.

Luckily real-life signposts eventually came to the rescue and we were not late for the theatre performance!
Whenever Sygic has taken me on a closed or private road, the fault has been that TomTom maps still shows it as a public road. It is so important to tell them, so that in a few years, they will get round to fixing it.
TomTom website wrote:
You can report changes to our maps in two ways:

Use TomTom Map Share on your navigation device to report a change. [ more... ]
Use the online Map Share Reporter to report a change.
http://www.tomtom.com/mapshare/tools (I've just logged in again, and my previous reports have disappeared - but the roads I reported as private farm tracks still look to be open. What hope is there for us all?) I have reported two of them again.

How irritating. In the olden days, the map reporting tool showed the road classification as two way, one way, private, and speed limits. Now it shows only the roads and tracks in different shades or colours with no key as to what the pretty colours mean. How unhelpful of TomTom.
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