Garmin nuvi 2595

linkylacey · Posted: Fri Jul 13, 2012 8:40 am Post subject: Garmin nuvi 2595

I am a long time TomTom user, but recently managed to convince myself I should try something else, no doubt because TomTom tried to refuse custom POIs not so long ago which undermines my trust in them.

I have downloaded the PGPSW database for the Garmin 2595 and because it does not seem to have the text-to-speech facility that even my old TT910 has I decided to try the chime and warning - however, there are options - MP3 or WAV? Who knows? The 2595 does not have a MP3 player so perhaps that is a non-starter, but does it play WAV files? I dont know, but I do know there must be a reason for offering them, especially as they take up so much space. So how do you add aural warnings.

The Garmin does seem a substantial step backwards from the TomTom Go 910, but I bought it so I have to try to make the best of it!

Any tips would be appreciated

Andy_P · Posted: Fri Jul 13, 2012 12:12 pm Post subject:

I'm going to move this to the camera database forum area as it's more about installing the camera database voices than the Garmin itself. Hope that's OK.

I'm not a Garmin user myself, but I know the rule of thumb for Garmins is "if it has an mp3 player, use the mp3 files. If it doesn't have one, use the .wavs".

Why not just try it and see. I'm sure it will work OK.
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linkylacey · Posted: Fri Jul 13, 2012 4:22 pm Post subject: Garmin 2595

Not a problem, but the Garmin 2595 does not have an mp3 player and the POI downloader does not accept wav files. Having said that, the mp3 files are accepted, but clearly do not play.

I am beginning to curse Garmin!

dales · Posted: Fri Jul 13, 2012 4:53 pm Post subject:

PoiLoader works fine with .wav files for me, all the time.

Check that you have got sox.exe in the folder where PoiLoader resides on your PC.

Dales
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MaFt · Posted: Fri Jul 13, 2012 5:33 pm Post subject:

for info a working version of sox.exe can be found here: http://www.pocketgpsworld.com/downloads/sox.zip

MaFt

linkylacey · Posted: Fri Jul 13, 2012 5:49 pm Post subject: Garmin 2595

OK - let me see if I have this straight.

1. I download SOX.zip
2. I unzip it and place the unzipped file in the same file as the POI Downloader (not in the Downloader file?)
3 I then download the PGPSW csv, bmp and WAV (not MP3) files using downloader again

And it should work?

I have to say that the best thing about this Garmin is that I can say "Hello Computer" a la Scotty on Star Trek... to wake it up.

linkylacey · Posted: Fri Jul 13, 2012 5:55 pm Post subject: Garmin 2595

BTW I assume the path to the POI Loader folder is:
Program Files - Garmin - POI Loader which contains "POI Loader.exe"

dales · Posted: Fri Jul 13, 2012 8:19 pm Post subject:

Yes, that sounds as if it should work.

There are plenty of threads about this procedure, on this forum, if you do a search.

Dales.
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linkylacey · Posted: Fri Jul 13, 2012 8:35 pm Post subject: Garmin 2505

Easier said than done...

I did all that I suppose I should have and put the sox.exe file in with POI Loder.exe in the POI Loader file.

So now I have a couple of chimes but still no voice and I wonder what voice is supposed to be used - a TTS voice or a standard voice?

And Garmin dont even answer their email

dales · Posted: Sat Jul 14, 2012 4:01 pm Post subject:

Have you read the installation instructions here?

There are plenty of threads about this procedure, on this forum, if you do a search. This is one example.

Keep at it. It does work.

Dales
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linkylacey · Posted: Sat Jul 14, 2012 4:20 pm Post subject: Garmin nuvi 2595

Thank you Dales for the encouragement, however I now wonder exactly where to download voices?

If I go to the map download page I would select for SatNav System: Garmin POILoader and then for Camera Selections: UK Speedzoned Complete and then for Available Voice Packs: WAV Male with Chime Prefix.

Having done that, I get a chime prefix but no Male voice.

Are you telling me that I also have to download some MP3 voice files and turn them into something else and then add them to the downloaded camera files that already have bmp, csv and wav files for each speed? I had thought the wav files were, in fact the appropriate voice files?

If this is so, do you have to go through all of this every time you update the cameras?

I appreciate all the help I can get

dales · Posted: Sat Jul 14, 2012 5:42 pm Post subject:

No, there's no need (nowadays) to download the mp3's and convert them.
The PGPSW crew have now made some wav's available for download.

I have just downloaded the pack that you described. (This file should work fine for you).
When I unzipped the pack, I got a folder full of files like this:
pocketgps_uk_gatso_20.bmp
pocketgps_uk_gatso_20.csv
pocketgps_uk_gatso_20.wav
You can see that they are all in groups of 3 for each camera/speed type.

If you double-click on the wav file (to test it), it will play in Windows Media Player:
"bong bong bong, fixed speed camera, 20 miles per hour".
This is what your Garmin should play, when it encounters a 20 mph Gatso.

Now you can copy all the files from this folder, into the Poi file you use to hold the Poi's for loading on to your device.

Finally connect your Garmin to the PC, run PoiLoader, and select the Poi file for PoiLoader to process. Wait for it to finish, and that should do the job.

Dales.
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linkylacey · Posted: Sat Jul 14, 2012 8:52 pm Post subject:

Thank you!

In fact, I downloaded the voice files you referenced and found the wav files were bigger than the wav files in the speed camera update - so I substituted them and then ran a fake trip with GPS simulator past a known speed camera and it seemed to work!!! Although the announcement was a couple of minutes early. So I will be keeping my fingers crossed. It does seem like a lot of effort to have to go to every week, however.

Now I just wonder about the bigger ikons as the current ones are very small - any ideas? Of course, I would have to do that every week too.

There are some features I like on the Garmin 2595 but I have to say it is not speed cameras, or at least PGPSW cameras. Equally I dont like the fact that you cant simply identify a point on the map and make it a "favorite" The manual for my 2595 does not even mention favorites although (surprise, surprise) when I open Where To there on the Right side is a vertical bar with Favorites - but Garmin will not let you name a point as a favorite, you first have to save it accepting whatever name Garmin assigns and then you have to go back and edit it - unless I am missing something.

While I am thinking about it my nearest Starbucks is listed - but it is about 100 yards away from where it really is - equally my 2595 takes me along a pedestrian plaza to get to Sainsbury's, rather than to the parking lot - so can these be altered or do you have to hope Garmin will recognise the error of their ways?

Thanks

dales · Posted: Sat Jul 14, 2012 9:30 pm Post subject:

If you like the voice files you've already got, then just leave "No Voice Pack Required" in the voice selection box, and no more voices will be downloaded (and the download will be a smaller filesize).

You can expand the icons a little - but probably not very far - different models seem to have different size limits.

The icons in the download are 22 x 22 pixels (R-click on the .bmp for its properties). I expanded them to 24 x 24 for my device, using Paint. (R-click on the .bmp ... Edit ... Image ... Stretch/Skew, and then increase the horizontal and vertical Stretch percentages equally until you reach the desired size, after File ... Save As).

Once you are happy with the icons in your Poi folder, then don't put any more in - delete the new ones from your download each week. (If you press Views ... Details on the download folder, you can click on Type to sort them into order, ready for deleting all the .bmp's).

You can download free Poi's from this PGPSW site (which includes Starbucks and Sainsburys Poi's) - you don't have to stick with just the ones Garmin originally provided with the mapping, and which they may not have correctly placed on the map.

Dales.
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linkylacey · Posted: Sun Jul 15, 2012 8:54 am Post subject:

Thank you Dales:

Actually, it seems you can download 24 x 24 icons too so I will try that.

Are you saying that there is, in fact, no way to edit the map data on the Nuvi 2595?

I suspect that downloading the PGPSW POI is not a real solution for an out of place Garmin POI - but it goes beyond that. I have not used this GPS much, yet, but in the few days I have had it, it has directed me the wrong way down a one-way street and has directed me onto a pedestrian shopping precinct in Market Harborough that might have been a road many years ago but has never been a road in my memory. Surely you should be able to either correct this on your device and advise Garmin - which is the way I think TomTom works, although I have never had to do it - or there should be some way of alerting Garmin to make the appropriate adjustments.

Perhaps you or someone else has experiance of this?

Thanks

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