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PostPosted: Fri Aug 13, 2004 7:47 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Lampman wrote:
Well I tried ignoring the selected route to Lytham and the TT was telling me to take the 5th exit of the roundabout,when there was only a choice of 3.
On non motorway routes, if ignored the TT tells me to Turn Around,before re locating itself and continuing the original route.


generally spoken, if you ignore the suggestion, it will quickly reroute and what I did yesterday evening is to enter my home destination and avoided the last (empty part though) of the A2. it worked just fine.

regaring roundabouts with incorrect exit(s) -- report to teleatlas.
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 13, 2004 7:50 am    Post subject: Re: TT G - Avoid certain roads? Improvements minor and impor Reply with quote

buglawton wrote:
Tomtom emailed me back posiitively about 2 improvements for these options on the TomTom GO:

- Night colours automatically at dusk
- Volume louder at higher speed automatically



hopefully user configurable .... how would that wrk, light sensor inside and soundsensor inside ?

at least you get replies. I want a normal keyboard layout (selectable) instead of abcd -- make it qwerty
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 13, 2004 2:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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hopefully user configurable .... how would that wrk, light sensor inside and soundsensor inside ?


Er...

It knows the time of day and the position, so it can compute dawn and dusk and change the settings accordingly (Garmin units do this trick), and,

It knows your speed, so just ups the volume when you go faster.

Simple really!
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 14, 2004 9:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Just wondered if anyone had experienced the strange behaviour of Tom Tom GO as we did yesterday.

Travelling along the A1 with no left or right?? turns nearby TTG suddenly announced 'take the right turn then turn left'. We would have had to cross the grassy central reservation then turned into the oncoming traffic!! on the opposite A1 carriageway. In reality our next turn was a left which was some 20miles away.
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 14, 2004 9:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Not quite the same but at the local double roundabout, which are the ones that are realy two painted circles in the road, I dont get the normal 'at the roundabout take the X exit' but instead to 'turn left then right' when the route is actually straight across. Thank goodness for the visual map as well.
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 14, 2004 10:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Travelling along the A1 with no left or right?? turns nearby TTG suddenly announced 'take the right turn then turn left'. We would have had to cross the grassy central reservation then turned into the oncoming traffic!! on the opposite A1 carriageway. In reality our next turn was a left which was some 20miles away.

Did the TT show a road where it said to turn? Or was just the schematic description of a turn displayed because you were travelling above a certain speed? If it was on map display and showed a crossing point road then the map must be wrong. If there was not a road shown on the map at that point presumably it was a software glitch.
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 14, 2004 10:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Just thought, even if it were on schematic display you could use "browse map" to examine that part of the A1 in detail and see if it showed a crossing road.
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 15, 2004 12:27 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

sifi at the time of verbal 'directions' the TTG screen displayed an arrow turning left, 20miles hence, not the road map. The satellite guage was showing full and because of traffic we were travelling between 50-55mph. I had travelled the same piece of road the week before, at approximately the same speed, without any comment from TTG at the same location. I have checked the route shown as you suggested and it does not indicate a crossing road.

I am hoping this is a one off glitch because I often travel on unfamiliar roads and through the night.
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 15, 2004 7:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

StephenT wrote:
Not quite the same but at the local double roundabout, which are the ones that are realy two painted circles in the road, I dont get the normal 'at the roundabout take the X exit' but instead to 'turn left then right' when the route is actually straight across. Thank goodness for the visual map as well.


These "painted" roundabouts are NOT true roundabouts, that's whyTT don't recognise them.
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 15, 2004 7:18 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

jaybee wrote:
Just wondered if anyone had experienced the strange behaviour of Tom Tom GO as we did yesterday.

Travelling along the A1 with no left or right?? turns nearby TTG suddenly announced 'take the right turn then turn left'. We would have had to cross the grassy central reservation then turned into the oncoming traffic!! on the opposite A1 carriageway. In reality our next turn was a left which was some 20miles away.


This is why you should treat GPS as a "Navigational Aid" and use driver common sense.

Does your home computer not have "Glitches" from time to time.

jaybee wrote:
I had travelled the same piece of road the week before, at approximately the same speed, without any comment from TTG at the same location.


this proves it was just a glitch, with the thousands of miles of roads we have, some mistakes are bound to happen.

If ALL building of roads stopped, and alterations to carriageways and turnings, roundabouts never added, etc., etc., then GPS software would be doddle to iron out the "wrong voice commands".

Remember, GPS is an AID to Navigation, and should be used as such.

There's onlyone "computer" powerful enough to give the Right command,

The Human Brain
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 15, 2004 10:46 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

As Delboy,says TT is a navigational aid;I can understand it missing mini rounabouts but not the larger type.This has happened a few times now with me being advised to take the 5th exit on a 3 or 4 exit roundabout.
Early days yet,to use the computer as a comparison,please don't say we will get as many patches as microsoft issue Laughing
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 15, 2004 1:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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hopefully user configurable .... how would that wrk, light sensor inside and soundsensor inside ?


Er...

It knows the time of day and the position, so it can compute dawn and dusk and change the settings accordingly (Garmin units do this trick), and,

It knows your speed, so just ups the volume when you go faster.

Simple really!


well I tend to think that such behaviour is not working correct. it could produce too loud sounds if your car is silent; regarding the dusk/dawn.... that doesn't work either -- if there is a thunderstorm, it wouldn't automatically work, while it's pretty dark outside. hence the question sound/light-sensor.

it's not that easy, you see.... Wink
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 15, 2004 5:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I suppose ideally sensors would be better and could respond to sudden changes in noise and light but this would involve a new version of the TT itself. Using the data like speed and time is a good second best. You would also have to input the date so it would know when sunset etc are.
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 15, 2004 5:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

sifi wrote:
I suppose ideally sensors would be better and could respond to sudden changes in noise and light but this would involve a new version of the TT itself. Using the data like speed and time is a good second best. You would also have to input the date so it would know when sunset etc are.


I don't know. maybe the system's got analog inputs and they could add the sensors to a/the mount.

the problem is that they do not want to tell us anything of the hardware at all. ok. 200 MHz ARM and afaik a WAAS capable sirf 2 chip for GPS and that's it...

One of the reasons I'd like to have the used kernel source is exactly for this: to look at what the hardware possibly is.

They _should_ release it -- it's GPL and I asked for it...

/me thinks that the TTGO is also an ideal latform to do programming yourself...
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 15, 2004 6:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The dawn dusk features won't require you to enter the date - GPS signal provides all the info it needs to compute dawn and dusk. This is standard fare for the Garmin Ique. If your car is super quiet, then disable the volume feature!!!
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