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Border_Collie
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 Posted: Fri Apr 29, 2011 12:20 pm Post subject: Is TT LIVE dead today? |
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With the Wedding in full swing I've set various places on their route, over the past couple of hours, to see how long the delays and the 'alternative' route.
Great, each time it shows a 2 minute delay due to busy roads but no incidents.
'The whole World will be watching'? Evidently not. 
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DennisN
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| Posted: Fri Apr 29, 2011 4:04 pm Post subject: |
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That's because there are NO DELAYS - how many TomToms do you think are crawling along those routes? 
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Privateer
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| Posted: Fri Apr 29, 2011 4:59 pm Post subject: |
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| Border_Collie wrote: | | With the Wedding in full swing I've set various places on their route, over the past couple of hours, to see how long the delays and the 'alternative' route. |
Well said that man. So did I. So how many others did it too? Come on own up! 
| Border_Collie wrote: | | Great, each time it shows a 2 minute delay due to busy roads but no incidents. |
Yes I noticed that too.
| DennisN wrote: | | That's because there are NO DELAYS - how many TomToms do you think are crawling along those routes? |
TomToms, not many unless the horse drawn coaches and the regular coaches all had TomToms.
Any way, isn't the TomTom HD traffic partially based on the Vodafone network? Surely a good percentage of the crowd had Vodafone mobile phones switched on during the day, or would the TomTom HD system be able to determine that the Vodafone phones were on the pavement and not on the roads?
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Border_Collie
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| Posted: Fri Apr 29, 2011 8:48 pm Post subject: |
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| Quote: | | That's because there are NO DELAYS |
There weren't?
| Quote: | | how many TomToms do you think are crawling along those routes? |
Obviously there were blocked roads and no TT users using those but what about the delays around the area? I'd wondered if TT would pick them up, after all 'everybody' knew. I would have thought the least they could have done is sent a signal via Vodaphone showing the blocked roads. And before you say why would I want to check when I already knew, what happens to people who don't know London and want to avoid the 'blocked' and congested roads and wouldn't have a clue as to the best via/vias to put into TT.
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technik
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| Posted: Fri Apr 29, 2011 10:24 pm Post subject: |
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| Border_Collie wrote: | | what about the delays around the area? I'd wondered if TT would pick them up, after all |
What delays?
It's a Bank Holiday for gaulds sake.
Were you there to know any different?
Most people would have used public transport.
You were looking for something that never existed. 
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Border_Collie
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| Posted: Fri Apr 29, 2011 11:19 pm Post subject: |
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| Quote: | | You were looking for something that never existed |
I stand corrected, hope I haven't given you the 'hump' after such a pleasant day for the Royalists. 
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DennisN
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| Posted: Sat Apr 30, 2011 8:46 am Post subject: |
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I think we already had the discussion about HD traffic taking consideration of pedestrians - the likes of football matches, concerts, changing of the guard etc. I don't recall the outcome, but somehow surely HD does indeed filter out that sort of thing?
IQ Routes already has "norms" for those roads, so a certain amount of delay is already built in. With no TT Live devices on those roads, no delay information is being transmitted to TT. Therefore there are NO DELAYS. Same as my local country road has a speed limit assumed of 60mph, even though it's full of cows, sheep, farmers driving their tractors to market and local peasants enjoying their Royal Wedding Street Parties.
What we can all take from this is that big events play havoc with Live HD Traffic data. Provides us with a neat talking point, no more, no less.
I had a lovely Royalist pleasant day. 
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Andy_P
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| Posted: Sat Apr 30, 2011 1:20 pm Post subject: |
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| technik wrote: |
What delays?
It's a Bank Holiday for gaulds sake.
Were you there to know any different?
Most people would have used public transport.
You were looking for something that never existed. |
But the OP plotted points ON the procession route, didn't he? Not close to it.
TT Traffic should definitely have picked up they those roads were closed. |
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technik
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| Posted: Sat Apr 30, 2011 1:49 pm Post subject: |
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| Andy_P wrote: |
But the OP plotted points ON the procession route, didn't he? Not close to it.
TT Traffic should definitely have picked up they those roads were closed. |
The whole world knew there was a wedding and roads would be closed.
You didn't need a TomTom to tell you that. 
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| Posted: Sat Apr 30, 2011 1:55 pm Post subject: |
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| technik wrote: | | You didn't need a TomTom to tell you that. |
I think that was the point of the OP. TT didn't tell you that  |
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Andy_P
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| Posted: Sat Apr 30, 2011 3:48 pm Post subject: |
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| technik wrote: |
The whole world knew there was a wedding and roads would be closed.
You didn't need a TomTom to tell you that. |
That's crazy....
WHICH roads were closed?
Yes, I guess you could have looked it up on the web, but that's what that expensive TomTom Traffic subscription is there for! |
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Privateer
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| Posted: Sat Apr 30, 2011 8:37 pm Post subject: |
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| Andy_P wrote: | | Yes, I guess you could have looked it up on the web, but that's what that expensive TomTom Traffic subscription is there for! |
Exactly!
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