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jfbuchanan Occasional Visitor

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Posted: Thu Nov 11, 2010 2:15 pm Post subject: TomTom V1.5 / Cameralert V1.2 / iPhone 3GS OS4.1 |
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Hi
I have an iPhone 3GS running OS4.1. I have just installed TomTom V1.5 Western Europe and CamerAlert.
Having read all the forum posts, I see that I should run both apps on the iPhone - and if I want SatNav use TomTom in the foreground with CamerAlert in the background.
Can you confirm though that this will give me the CamerAlert speed camera warnings through TomTom? Can't quite seem to find that info in forums/guides.
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BaggieBoy Lifetime Member

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Posted: Thu Nov 11, 2010 3:04 pm Post subject: |
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Running CamerAlert in the background just means that the app can play the audible alerts but allow you to see the SatNav display. The two apps should work happily together, however if you check out the CamerAlert forum you wil see that this isn't always the case. Sometimes CamerAlert will quit running when in the background, also it can also affect TomTom getting a stable GPS lock. Not everyone gets these problems however. |
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Darren Pocket GPS Staff


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Posted: Thu Nov 11, 2010 8:00 pm Post subject: |
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There is no way for us to integrate with TomTom, they do not permit it.
By multitasking you can run two apps at the same time. CamerAlert will provide audible alerts in the background whilst TomTom runs in the foreground OR vice versa, your choice.
We have received reports of some issues when multitasking where the GPS signal drops, we are actively investigating this but there is no danger in your trying and seeing if it works for you. _________________ Darren Griffin - Editor |
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jfbuchanan Occasional Visitor

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Posted: Fri Nov 12, 2010 9:23 am Post subject: |
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Darren/Baggieboy
Thanks for that.
Looks as if I may have wasted my money on TomTom because I thought with V1.5 that there was CamerAlert integration! I already had Navigon on my iPhone and was happy with that - and it sounds as if CamerAlert would have worked as well with it (as a background app) as it does with TomTom. Oh well - variety is the spice of life!
Anyway on the assumption that I do carry on using TomTom in the foreground and CamerAlert in the background, can you tell me if TomTom also has speed cameras built into its system - and if so will I be getting double warnings on some cameras (possibly not a bad thing!). Or would you suggest that I should disable (if I can) any speed camera functionality on TomTom?
Thanks for your help.
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Darren Pocket GPS Staff


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Posted: Fri Nov 12, 2010 9:32 am Post subject: |
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jfbuchanan wrote: | Looks as if I may have wasted my money on TomTom because I thought with V1.5 that there was CamerAlert integration! |
There isn't and so far, no-one has created a nav app that allows the use of third party POI data.
Quote: | can you tell me if TomTom also has speed cameras built into its system |
They do, although I'm not sure if you need to have a subscription with them to receive them.
Quote: | and if so will I be getting double warnings on some cameras (possibly not a bad thing!). Or would you suggest that I should disable (if I can) any speed camera functionality on TomTom? |
If you do get warnings from TomTom disable them. Change Settings | Alerts | Safety Camera | Off _________________ Darren Griffin - Editor |
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MaFt Pocket GPS Staff


Joined: Aug 31, 2005 Posts: 15034 Location: Bradford, West Yorkshire
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Posted: Fri Nov 12, 2010 11:33 am Post subject: |
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Darren wrote: | jfbuchanan wrote: | Looks as if I may have wasted my money on TomTom because I thought with V1.5 that there was CamerAlert integration! |
There isn't and so far, no-one has created a nav app that allows the use of third party POI data.
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Co-Pilot works with our camera data on iPhone without needing Jailbreaking. You do, however, need a file-access program such as Disk-Aid to get to the correct folder because iTunes doesn't let you load the file to the correct folder!
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jfbuchanan Occasional Visitor

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Posted: Fri Nov 12, 2010 12:14 pm Post subject: |
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Thanks Darren |
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jfbuchanan Occasional Visitor

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Posted: Fri Nov 12, 2010 12:50 pm Post subject: |
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MaFt
I wish I'd started this forum discussion before I made my play! However it is very useful.
Anyway, are you saying that if I added to my growing collection of iPhone SatNav systems by buying Co-Pilot (any views on how good it is compared with TomTom/Navigon?) I would definitely be able to fully(?) integrate the CamerAlert database into it (ie only one app running) by transferring the data to a specified folder on my iPhone using Disk-Aid?
Your list of compatible SatNav systems suggests that Co-Pilot V8 would require 'jailbreaking' the iPhone. I assume things have moved on? I would be reluctant to jailbreak the iPhone since I wouldn't have the confidence I could fix things if that process went wrong.
How about camera database updates - will they happen automatically of do they have to be transferred each time, as I suspect would be the case?
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MaFt Pocket GPS Staff


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Posted: Fri Nov 12, 2010 4:03 pm Post subject: |
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the copilot solution isn't the best. you need to cripple on of their files in order for it not to alert you to their database (if you simply remove the data files it will reload them everytime you laucnh the app) so you have to click 'no' everytime you launch as it will say the file is corrupt do you want to reload it.
also, there are no custom icons and you cannot distinguish between camera types either by icon or audio.
i've actually just had an IM from Mike Alder who says that he
Quote: | Should have a new PGPSW speed camera installation guide later tonight to cover TomTom on iPhone that doesn't need Jail Breaking and works with all the warnings and icons! |
so i'd hold out if i were you
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mikealder Pocket GPS Moderator


Joined: Jan 14, 2005 Posts: 19638 Location: Blackpool , Lancs
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Posted: Fri Nov 12, 2010 4:24 pm Post subject: |
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Its not too difficult to add the PocketGPSWorld Speed Camera database to the TomTom iPhone app and get full warnings with the icon flashing in the top left corner along with spoken alerts if you install the ogg files along with the POI files and better still it DOESN'T require the iPhone to be Jail Broken!
I should have some details ready to put on the site later tonight on how to do this - Mike |
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jfbuchanan Occasional Visitor

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Posted: Fri Nov 12, 2010 6:44 pm Post subject: |
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Mike
That is excellent - thanks.
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mikealder Pocket GPS Moderator


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Posted: Sat Nov 13, 2010 9:18 am Post subject: |
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John, You can find the instructions Here - Mike |
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