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Speedcam to net 1.3m a year - and it's not about safety

 
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 08, 2010 8:29 am    Post subject: Speedcam to net 1.3m a year - and it's not about safety Reply with quote

pocketgpsworld.comA controversial speed camera site in Poole, Dorset has been catching 1,800 motorists every month, that is a total income of over 1.3m a year.

The speed camera on Holes Bay road was one of the Monitron red-light cameras converted into dual purpose red-light/speed enforcement cameras last year as we forewarned here.

The speed camera is cynically placed at a spot where the dual-carriageway speed limit reduces to 30mph and has been installed despite official accident figures that show there have been no fatalities in over 10 years.

Perhaps we can now ask that they stop calling them 'Safety Cameras' and admit that they are, as many of us suspect, simply another income stream.


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PostPosted: Thu Jul 08, 2010 9:45 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The camera should be clearly marked with this new logo I've designed:

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PostPosted: Thu Jul 08, 2010 10:34 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Perhaps it could also display the amount of income it is generating in real time?

I'm just appalled at this undermining of the safety ethos. The best way is 1) give information about hazards/restrictions in good time, 2) encourage the less responsible to co-operate (clearly marked camera), 3) take action to remove the non-cooperative from the roads (any method you can think of).
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 09, 2010 8:08 am    Post subject: Speed Cameras Reply with quote

Can you please publicise as much as possible the speed camera system they have in Portugal, where they really are concerned with safety and not profit. There the speed cameras are linked to a pedestrian crossing 200m further on. If you break the limit the crossing changes to red - both ways - for 45 seconds thus ensuring that all traffic slows down. Ths first time I did it, not understanding the warning signs placed 100m before the zone, I could feel the eyes of the driver going the other way boring into me in anger for having stopped him too. The system works and does not raise one cent in income for the authorities.

It is important that all politicians , local and national, learn and understand that that is a systems of spped controll all motorists would agree and comply with.
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 09, 2010 9:39 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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The system works and does not raise one cent in income for the authorities.
Just watch OUR local authorities joining the queue for THIS! (+ "we can't afford the extra cost of the additional technology") Razz Rolling Eyes

But what a great idea. Just as jumping one set of lights in a series of synchronised ones in London gets you nowhere, so people don't bother.
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 10, 2010 11:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

We must be lucky in our neck of the woods:
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More than 1 million was paid out in speed camera fines in Leicestershire in 12 months, new figures show.

A Freedom of Information request to the county's speed camera partnership found motorists were fined 1,058,880 in 2008-09, the most recently available figures.

Drivers in Nottinghamshire paid out more than double that figure at 2,380,980, while Derbyshire had the lowest speed camera income in the East Midlands at 762,960.

The data was compiled for a new report from the Taxpayers' Alliance, which looked at how much money was earned from road fines and how effective speed cameras were at reducing road deaths.


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PostPosted: Sun Jul 11, 2010 11:21 am    Post subject: Re: Speed Cameras Reply with quote

hpyatt wrote:
Can you please publicise as much as possible the speed camera system they have in Portugal, where they really are concerned with safety and not profit. There the speed cameras are linked to a pedestrian crossing 200m further on.

What a great idea! Sadly it will never be adopted here because money is a huge part of our enforcement policies, always has, always will be. Education has always taken a back seat Sad
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 13, 2010 12:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's clearly labelled 30 though, and the camera is several hundred yards further on.
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 13, 2010 4:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

About 180 yards actually.

Coming from the 50 limit, if you were distracted and only spotted the signs as you passed them, that gives you about 7.4 seconds to decelerate before you reach the camera (by my dodgy maths!).
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 13, 2010 4:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Another issue is drivers take many varied visual clues into account when calculating the correct speed to drive at (in the absence of signage).

Yes, that's like the drop from 70 down to 50 on the A40 at Northolt Aerodrome. There's no apparent reason for it, and a Monitron camera just a couple of hundred yards after it.

Even if you begin to slow down gently as soon as you see the sign you are in danger of still being over the limit when you reach the camera. Therefore there is a lot of panic braking, which CAN'T be safe on a major road.
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 17, 2010 11:23 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

..and the milking of motorists continues:

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/motoring/news/7894598/Motorists-face-huge-hike-in-fines-to-fund-victims.html
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 30, 2010 9:35 pm    Post subject: I agree with Darren Reply with quote

Darren wrote:
Another issue is drivers take many varied visual clues into account when calculating the correct speed to drive at (in the absence of signage).

Yes, that's like the drop from 70 down to 50 on the A40 at Northolt Aerodrome. There's no apparent reason for it, and a Monitron camera just a couple of hundred yards after it.

Even if you begin to slow down gently as soon as you see the sign you are in danger of still being over the limit when you reach the camera. Therefore there is a lot of panic braking, which CAN'T be safe on a major road.


I use the A40 through Northolt regularly, that camera is a real hazard and I now know to slow down well in advance of it and leave at least double my normal gap between myself and the car in front. I then have time to admire all the fresh skid marks on the road!

Cheers, Keef.
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