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Andy_P
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With my responsible, moderator's hat on.....Terrible, shouldn't take the law into own hands, etc. etc.
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DennisN
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With my responsible Moderator's hat on..... Terrible, shouldn't applaud with normal hat on, etc. etc.
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Darren
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Funny as this may at face value appear, do we really think that having idiots making and assembling, let alone using explosive devices for whatever reason is something to applaud?
Having served in NI during the height of the troubles I think not.
I hope those responsible are caught and quickly before their home made bombs explode prematurely and maim or kill an innocent member of the public.
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DennisN
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Sorry Darren, you're quite right. It just goes to show the value of having diversity on the forum as I never considered that aspect, even though the activity wasn't greatly amusing (to me). When you think about it, it's no different from the Underground bombers and none of us would want to be standing beside somebody like that.
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M8TJT
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I agree wholeheartedly with Darren, but | DennisN wrote: | | When you think about it, it's no different from the Underground bombers and none of us would want to be standing beside somebody like that. |
It's not realy anything like the underground bombers. They were intent on actually trying, and succeding, to kill people, not destroying a speed cam.  |
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Mullet
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Sure you can argue its all based on intent. But step back an look, someone has deliberately manufactured or modified an explosive.
I get to use and train others to use explosives and if nothing else you just don't mess with the stuff. |
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Darren
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| M8TJT wrote: | | It's not realy anything like the underground bombers. They were intent on actually trying, and succeding, to kill people, not destroying a speed cam. |
The point is that regardless of the motive or purpose, the 'bomb' if that is what it was, had to be transported to the location and in so doing put any number of innocent passers by at risk which is no different to any terrorist bomb and bomber.
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DennisN
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| M8TJT wrote: | | It's not realy anything like the underground bombers. They were intent on actually trying to kill people, not destroying a speed cam. |
My feeling was that I'd not wish to choose between standing next to somebody on a bus or underground who was carrying an unstable bomb to set off in a railway station somewhere, or somebody who was carrying an unstable bomb to set off on a speed camera.
Forty some years ago, in Sharjah, I was in the airport where the local Arab watchman handed his rifle to a small English boy to enjoy. The youngster brought it into the terminal to show his parents (with the business end pointing at all of us) and you should have seen us hit the deck. None of us stood wondering whether he meant to shoot any of us.
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M8TJT
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| Sorry guys. Point taken. Why isn't there a 'hands up, I give in' Smiley? |
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Andy_P
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Worth remembering that the Daily Mail's (and the press in general's) definition of a "bomb" is pretty loose/vague/inaccurate.
I have been closely following the reporting of the court case following a tragic incident at a firework store in Sussex, and the reports were often so inaccurate on technical details as to be worthless. But a few emotive "buzz" words always helps to sell a paper.
The sort of damage done to that camera *could* have been caused by nothing more than a pressure build-up inside the case from an overheated back-up battery after a simple fire; but point taken... we should all condemn this sort of overreaction. |
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| Andy_P wrote: | | Worth remembering that the Daily Mail's (and the press in general's) definition of a "bomb" is pretty loose/vague/inaccurate. |
Oh yes, we all know that what the press report often has little bearing on reality so fair point!
| Quote: | | I have been closely following the reporting of the court case following a tragic incident at a firework store in Sussex, and the reports were often so inaccurate on technical details as to be worthless. But a few emotive "buzz" words always helps to sell a paper. |
Yup, nasty case that one but again, I know only what I have read.
| Quote: | | The sort of damage done to that camera *could* have been caused by nothing more than a pressure build-up inside the case from an overheated back-up battery after a simple fire; but point taken... we should all condemn this sort of overreaction. |
It would be interesting to know what the device, if it was indeed a device, consisted of but I doubt we ever will.
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| Andy_P wrote: | | Worth remembering that the Daily Mail's (and the press in general's) definition of a "bomb" is pretty loose/vague/inaccurate. |
Not far from the mark in this instance. See Wiki, particularly the improvised bit. |
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