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PostPosted: Thu Jun 18, 2009 2:28 pm    Post subject: ALK move from Navteq to Teleatlas for mapping data Reply with quote

pocketgpsworld.comALK have been stalwart supporters of the Navteq maps since the launch of CoPilot PDA software way back in 2002. Today they have announced a switch from Navteq to Tele Atlas, bolstering the coffers of their SatNav rival TomTom.

This is an interesting move as industry analyst opinion was that mobile based navigation companies would move over to Tele Atlas (TomTom) whilst PND based companies would tend to migrate to Navteq (Nokia). Whilst ALK is not in the hardware market their main product range is very much targeted at cellphones. This of course may well be a total co-incidence of course...

ALK's Managing Director, Michael Kornhauser, says "We are excited to work with Tele Atlas as a partner for digital maps and location content; their stringent processes and content enhanced with community input add even more value to our products..."

19Jul09 CORRECTION: ALK will use both Navteq and Tele Atlas wrote:
I have been contacted by ALK today to put the record straight about the announcement made by Tele Atlas. Reading the Tele Atlas press release it appears that they were to become the mapping provider for CoPilot. We were unable to contact our PR contact in ALK as he is on his honeymoon so we published the Tele Atlas Press Release with my own comments.

It transpires that ALK will be using both Navteq and Tele Atlas for map data in their products going forwards. This has occurred because certain un-named partners have reqested having Tele Atlas maps as opposed to Navteq. I have been reliably informed that Navteq will continue to provide map data for the UK and Europe, and it is unlikely that this will be switched to Tele Atlas.


The full Tele Atlas press release follows:

ALK Selects Tele Atlas Maps to Power Location-Based Services and 
Navigation Solutions

Award-winning CoPilot™ GPS software enhanced to deliver latest maps, improve mobile navigation experience

Gent, Belgium, 18 June 2009 – Tele Atlas, a leading global provider of digital maps and dynamic content for navigation and location based solutions, and ALK Technologies, a specialist in mobile navigation software and transportation technology, today announced a license agreement whereby ALK will use Tele Atlas maps and dynamic content in more than 200 countries and territories worldwide. The agreement gives ALK access to Tele Atlas’ global digital map content and products, including content for more than 24 million points of interest (POIs) and additional map enhancement products that can further enrich the mobile device users’ navigation experience.


ALK’s award-winning CoPilot™ GPS software makes every journey easier by delivering a fully integrated navigation solution for the mobile environment, with useful navigation-based services such as live local search and weather via the phone’s mobile Internet connection.

“Accurate, global digital map data is a key element of our GPS software offerings that mobile carriers and handset manufacturers rely on when building new applications for the wireless market,” said Michael Kornhauser, Managing Director, ALK Technologies. “We are excited to work with Tele Atlas as a partner for digital maps and location content; their stringent processes and content enhanced with community input add even more value to our products and will enable us to offer the powerful navigation experience that the mobile industry demands.”



“Increasingly, the mobile and Internet arenas are converging on LBS, and consumers seek more sophisticated GPS-enabled services from their devices and handsets,” said Filip Neirynck, Vice President of Consumer Markets, Tele Atlas. “With ALK’s substantial position in the Smartphone market and commitment to quality, we are pleased that our relationship with ALK will help empower millions of mobile users with accurate navigation information and location based content around the world.”



Financial terms of the agreement were not disclosed.

[Edited to add ALK correction both Navteq and Tele Atlas mapping used MikeB]
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 18, 2009 5:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

What do they know that we don't know? I have always found NavTeq more reliable than TeleAtlas
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 18, 2009 10:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I don't understand the logic of depending on your competitor for your maps.
This must have caused a great deal of development and retesting so one can only assume there is a very good reason.

I had been looking forward to a release of CPL using the Navteq Transport data base allowing road and vehicle sizes to be taken into account when routing. Clearly this isn't going to happen. I gues TA must have an equivalent data base so perhaps that is better. I believe I read somewhere that a release of CPL for Trucks in the USA didn't do to well - was that due to map quality?
Other products - e.g.Pronav - which seem to be based on Navteq Transport have not so far met with much enthusiasm so perhaps there are big issue with Navteq maps that as users we simply cannot see because they are hidden by the software.

I is also true to say that TT have shot themselves in the foot over TT Nav 7 for PDA's and there was speculation that Sygic may become the TT mainstream PDA route. I have tried McGuider and have basically given up on it so maybe TT are looking for a better partner.

It will be interesting because I understand a new vesion CPL8?) is expected daily.

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PostPosted: Fri Jun 19, 2009 9:23 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I recently used CoPilotLive "pan-European" maps and found them to be terrible.

How is it possible that many, many major autoroutes are not in the system? Honestly, these roads take years to build; engineering and environmental studies go on and on before that; drawings, routing etc. are readily available, satelite photos show them under construction.

But somehow, CoPilot Live / Navtec were caught by surprise and these giant projects are missing from their current maps.

Go figure!
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 19, 2009 10:36 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

And when exactly was the last Co-Pilot V7 map update!....@@@@@@@@@ they have got to be the worst Sat-nav company I have ever spent money on! at a guess I would say that the "Latest" (only) map data I have is at least 4 years out of date, when you compare to IGO or TomTom who update a few times a year, I've had NOTHING from ALK for Co-Pilot V7.
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 19, 2009 12:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Tele-Atlas = TomTom = iPhone

Just a thought
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 19, 2009 12:43 pm    Post subject: RECTIFICATION Reply with quote

Hi,

Just to let you know that ALK selected TeleAtlas as an aditional mapping provider, it doesn't mean that they ditched Navteq at all. They will be using one or the other depending on the regions and partners.

That's all
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 19, 2009 1:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Might be an idea to explain that you are from ALK to avoid confusion there Nelene.

Point taken though.
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 19, 2009 1:05 pm    Post subject: Re: RECTIFICATION Reply with quote

Nelene wrote:
Hi,

Just to let you know that ALK selected TeleAtlas as an aditional mapping provider, it doesn't mean that they ditched Navteq at all. They will be using one or the other depending on the regions and partners.

That's all


Doesn't really matter how many deals they sign.... If they never issue any updates!
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 19, 2009 1:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

smokley wrote:
Tele-Atlas = TomTom = iPhone

Just a thought


I agree, that is if I understand what you mean.

For me, TomTom's recent reversal of their TomTom Navigator 7 release for cellphones was solely to stop the pirating and to gain a little sorely needed cash. (They didn't even release it for North America, nor offer TTN8 software). In the future, TT won't provide any more software for cell phones, it will just be pirated.

iPhone however is a different story IFAIK because it can't be hacked and pirated as easily since it's a closed system integrated with the iPhone hardware. Since the iPhone gets constant rave reviews, this isn't such a bad outcome.

If you are suggesting that Apple will buy TomTom as is currently the buzz, I'm not so sure. Though for years I've been saying someone big (Microsoft, Yahoo, Google) would buy TomTom for location based services, but I'd say Apple is a less likely fit.
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 19, 2009 4:06 pm    Post subject: Correction ALK will use Navteq and Teleatlas for map data Reply with quote

I have been contacted by ALK today to put the record straight about the announcement made by Tele Atlas. Reading the Tele Atlas press release it appears that they were to become the mapping provider for CoPilot. We were unable to contact our PR contact in ALK as he is on his honeymoon sso we published the Tele Atlas Press Release with my own comments.

It transpires that ALK will be using both Navteq and Tele Atlas for map data in their products going forwards. This has occurred because certain un-named partners have reqested having Tele Atlas maps as opposed to Navteq. I have been reliably informed that Navteq will continue to provide map data for the UK, and it is unlikely that this will be switched to Tele Atlas.
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 19, 2009 4:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Captain_Eric wrote:
smokley wrote:
Tele-Atlas = TomTom = iPhone

Just a thought


I agree, that is if I understand what you mean.

For me, TomTom's recent reversal of their TomTom Navigator 7 release for cellphones was solely to stop the pirating and to gain a little sorely needed cash. (They didn't even release it for North America, nor offer TTN8 software). In the future, TT won't provide any more software for cell phones, it will just be pirated.

iPhone however is a different story IFAIK because it can't be hacked and pirated as easily since it's a closed system integrated with the iPhone hardware. Since the iPhone gets constant rave reviews, this isn't such a bad outcome.

If you are suggesting that Apple will buy TomTom as is currently the buzz, I'm not so sure. Though for years I've been saying someone big (Microsoft, Yahoo, Google) would buy TomTom for location based services, but I'd say Apple is a less likely fit.

I am not too sure that I follow your reasoning here...

Tele Atlas = TomTom obviously works, but TomTom = iPhone is probably stretching things a bit too far. If that was the case then I would have expected the TomTom app to have been the first TBT (sorry Mike Alder) Navigation app in the AppStore, but it wasnt it was beaten by Gokivo and Sygic. I am not saying it wont happen, but it is amazing what happens to a company that features in an Apple presentation. Look at Loopt for example catapulted to fame on the US side just by being on the iPhone at launch, but not bought out by Apple...

As far as piracy goes, the iPhone is just as susceptible as any other solution, though granted the WM Smartphones were easy to crack, but anyone with the know-how to jailbreak and unlock an iPhone must surely have the ability to do the same to TomTom software. Nothing is completely hackproof, they just need the incentive to do it. Hacking a $0.99 app just doesnt have that incentive, hacking a popular $100 (guess) app probably does.
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