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TonyD Frequent Visitor

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Posted: Fri Jun 12, 2009 9:40 am Post subject: |
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Darren wrote: | Well we agree on some points as MikeB and I will be at Regent St on Friday in-line for ours
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I take it all back. You are officially promoted to Apple fanboys in my mind  _________________ Tony
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MaFt Pocket GPS Staff


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Posted: Fri Jun 12, 2009 10:18 am Post subject: |
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don't forget some of the 'initial speedy gps lock' will be from cell triangulation or wifi geo-location making it seem like it has a gps lock faster - when in fact it is more likely to know a rough approximation of your position WHILE it is still getting a gps lock.
it works well though
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TonyD Frequent Visitor

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Posted: Fri Jun 12, 2009 11:01 am Post subject: |
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MaFt wrote: | don't forget some of the 'initial speedy gps lock' will be from cell triangulation or wifi geo-location making it seem like it has a gps lock faster - when in fact it is more likely to know a rough approximation of your position WHILE it is still getting a gps lock.
it works well though
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Yes, I appreciate that (hence the term assisted GPS), but that's why I like the iPhone GPS. As far as accuracy is concerned it seems plenty accurate enough in practice e.g. when cycling or walking down streets (in the car I use dedicated TT). _________________ Tony
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Darren Frequent Visitor

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Posted: Fri Jun 12, 2009 11:05 am Post subject: |
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TonyD wrote: | As far as accuracy is concerned it seems plenty accurate enough in practice e.g. when cycling or walking down streets (in the car I use dedicated TT). |
Indeed, and it's fair to assume that was all it was intended for initially. It's when you test it in-car that the shortcomings are revealed. _________________ Darren Griffin |
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TonyD Frequent Visitor

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Posted: Fri Jun 12, 2009 11:28 am Post subject: |
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Darren wrote: | Indeed, and it's fair to assume that was all it was intended for initially. It's when you test it in-car that the shortcomings are revealed. |
I sometimes use it in car (if I am in my wife's, or a friend's) and I can't say I have noticed a problem with for example Google maps. The blue dot seems to follow my position pretty accurately, but I'm sure you have more experience, perhaps I just haven't noticed problems. _________________ Tony
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Trevor1234 Frequent Visitor

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Posted: Fri Jun 12, 2009 9:54 pm Post subject: |
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I think my iPhone 3G is fantastic. Some of the Apps are very good indeed and many are free and others cost next to nothing. It’s a great phone too.
However, Tomtom navigation? No, I don’t think so. To start with one would struggle to hear its spoken instruction in a Rolls Royce yet alone a Ford Transit van.
But there again, both Apple and Tomtom are big players and I have a feeling that this could be the start of something big. We will see. _________________ Tomtom Go 720.
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Darren Frequent Visitor

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Posted: Fri Jun 12, 2009 9:56 pm Post subject: |
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Trevor1234 wrote: | However, Tomtom navigation? No, I don’t think so. To start with one would struggle to hear its spoken instruction in a Rolls Royce yet alone a Ford Transit van. |
Hence the cradle with speaker. _________________ Darren Griffin |
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Trevor1234 Frequent Visitor

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Posted: Fri Jun 12, 2009 10:53 pm Post subject: |
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Hi Darren
Hence the cradle with speaker? Yes, I missed that bit of news. Err! Please put that down as a bit of a cock-up on my part. _________________ Tomtom Go 720.
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Mullet Frequent Visitor

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Quote: | 1. Double the performance, | Is that the little 2x icon in the features literature? Please dont tell me you fell for the hype. Dont ye recall when Apple were forced to add this to their misleading advertising? "Steps removed and sequence shortened. Network speeds may vary."
Quote: | Do you really consider a 3MP camera to be a 'decent' camera? 5,6MP+ maybe but 3MP with no flash? | Exactly, I love my HD, but anything! with a flash is better than a whole 5MP without.
Quote: | The iPhone mobile browser is the best by a country mile and makes mobile web browsing an almost enjoyable experience. | This is true however Opera Lite is getting close..
Quote: | Forums will always be a pain on a small screen and glued to the internet as I am even I can't be bothered to interact with them on a mobile browser very often. |
That is what makes tethering a must have. I'm on holiday at the moment, what am I supposed to do, go to an internet cafe? A phone for a modem in my pocket and a notebook in my bag make an iPhone solution un thinkable.
Dont get me wrong, I like the device, really like the device, and I keep my eye on it but I refuse to let Apple dictate what I can and cannot do after shelling out half a grand.
just listen at ourselves. The GPS is poor, the features are choked and locked down, the battery life is carp, it costs more than a good notebook and is restricted to an expensive network
But hey, its got the little fruit on the back.
..and by the way, for the few users who like to throw the "use the search button" wobbler, as it is in the TomTom Portable Navigation Devices section this thread will never be found in the iPhone section.
Is the new layout too hard to understand?
Oh, apologies if you dont like it. Long flight and jet lagged. |
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Darren Frequent Visitor

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Posted: Sat Jun 13, 2009 5:55 pm Post subject: |
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The processor speed has gone from 400 to 600MHz and now has a separate graphics processor.
The 2x claims are of course unproven but there is good reason to believe that in day to day use many operations will be significantly quicker on the 3G S.
Tethering isn't a must have for everyone. I don't carry my laptop everywhere I go and when I do travel I can normally find wifi. But for those occasions where I can't I have a dongle and use the SIM out of my BB.
I've had a whole bunch of phones and still have a BB which gets less and less use but I like and prefer the iPhone. It's not a crime to say so nor is it a crime to think otherwise. But I don't feel driven to post denigrating anyone who is happy with their chosen platform.
On my iPhone I can watch movies (synced from iTunes) I have much of my music collection, I can browse the web much more happily than on any other mobile device, I can Tweet, IM, read and compose email and do a myriad of other things. Yes I could do most of them on other devices but not IMHO as well.
And of course we now have some games that would put even a PSP or Nintendo DS to shame. Show me a Nokia or PPC that can say that?
Thread also moved to the iPhone forum, now get some sleep ya grumpy git  _________________ Darren Griffin |
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